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5/7/2015 1:02:21 PM
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Any tips Swordbearers?

So, I've finally done it. Killed crota on a clutched hard raid when our swordbearer got booted after he used the forst sword. Not sure how I kept it going until the end but i got it. I have gotten him on normal a few times but for some reason hardmode is kicking my ass. I'm struggling to get past that first sword. Any tips?
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  • Something I found on Reddit. Few things for people wanting to run the sword. Damage output for a 32 Lvl Guardian on Crota Hard Crota lasts about 4.5s vulnerable to sword attacks Slam(RT): 15,301 Slash(Rb): 7,201 Super: 18,001 Uppercut([b]R[/b][b]T[/b]): 12,601 Slash Combo(Rb, Rb, [b]RT[/b]) = 27,003 Without Super 5 Slams = 76,505 [spoiler]RT, RT, RT, RT, RT *This combo can kill Crota in 2 Swords if done 4x[/spoiler] 2 Slash Combos + Slam = 69,307 [spoiler]Rb, Rb, [b]RT[/b], Rb, Rb, [b]RT[/b], RT *This Combo can kill Crota in 2 Swords if done 4x [/spoiler] Slash + 4 Slams = 68,405 [spoiler]Rb, RT, RT, RT, RT *This Combo can kill Crota in 2 Swords if done 4x[/spoiler] Slash & Slam x3 = 67,506 [spoiler]Rb, RT, Rb, RT, Rb, RT *This Combo can kill Crota if done 4x[/spoiler] 4 Slams = 61,204 [spoiler]RT, RT, RT, RT[/spoiler] 2 Slashes + Slash & Slam x2 = 59,406 [spoiler]Rb, Rb, Rb, RT, Rb, RT[/spoiler] Slash Combo + 2 Slams = 57,605 [spoiler]Rb, Rb, [b]RT[/b], RT, RT[/spoiler] 2 Slash Combos = 54,006 [spoiler]Rb, Rb, [b]RT[/b], Rb, Rb, [b]RT[/b][/spoiler] Slash + 3 Slams = 53,104 [spoiler]Rb, RT, RT, RT[/spoiler] Slash Combo + Slash & Slam = 49,505 [spoiler]Rb, Rb, [b]RT[/b], Rb, RT[/spoiler] 3 Slams = 45,903 [spoiler]RT, RT, RT[/spoiler] Slash & Slam x2 = 45,004 [spoiler]Rb, RT, Rb, RT[/spoiler] 6 Slashes = 43,206 [spoiler]Rb, Rb, Rb, Rb, Rb, Rb[/spoiler] Tips and Tricks from other Guardians: (not all are confirmed, although to me and others they worked but are not guaranteed) 1. Holding forward on the analog stick will shorten the animation time of RTs [CONFIRMED] 2. Agility slightly speeds yur melees nd RT (this includes weapons with agility such as suros or murmur) 3. Armor perks slightly increase melee speed 4.Using supers will cancel the animation on any attack [CONFIRMED] 5. To have sword super ready, Titans can place a few bubles right or left of where crota spawns, or warlocks can jump of behind where Crota spawns and resurect before activating the crystal. (you only really need 3 irbs to have a super by the 2nd down) [CONFIRMED] 6. Shooting at crota while hes down can increase the time he stays kneeled 7. Crota starts taking damage as soon as his shield hits Zero (Sometimes Crotas shield is on Zero but takes .1-.5 seconds to show up on yur screen because of connection mybe o if u hit him when his shield is on 1-5% you will still do damage) [CONFIRMED] EDIT: 262,824< Crota's Health <270,024 EDIT: Crota Enrage- when his health is between the C and R of [u]C[/u]rota.

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    • I have made a basic and a 2 sword tutorial for hard Crota on YouTube, I have posted both of them in these forums at some point. Basic: http://youtu.be/gySJH5KY1Vo2 2 Sword: http://youtu.be/fwJ4GMdn2xE

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    • Don't try to do too much. 3 slams each down is all you need. Once you get that mastered, then start going for the 4th. Get that done fast enough you can start trying for 3 downs each sword.

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      • Use your rockets on the sword bearer. It's YOUR job your team will fire some snipers but u should be doing most of the damage bc they need rockets for crota

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        • Don't hit him 14 times unless you can get the last 2 hits. He'll enrage.

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        • For first sword, if your a hunter: Kill swordbearer where chalice usually is. Keep it close enough so you can grab it on the rock. Call for dps, and jump as you see 1 rocket hit(normal) 2 rockets (hard). Do 4 R2 slams, blink strike(hunter) or right side(hard) or left(normal). Repeat 2 more times. For escaping after the sword, either go invis in closest boomer tower(hunter), or run if the middle and go opposite of Crota(all classes) Rinse and repeat.

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        • I usually use the right rock to stand in between takedowns. If everyone is shooting a rocket (hungers work fine if now gallys) he goes down almost immediately so just call shoot and I usually jump up and take 1 sword swing towards crota to get to him faster. The timely is right before you see the rockets cross the platform you jump (unless he is close to you then jump right after they hit). Take 3 hits (smash hits) per take down if you are now learning then sword swing in the air back to the rock and go in the hole (there is a hole at the corner of the rock). Stay they until your team almost gets the swordbearer down then you get the sword and rinse and repeat. 3 swords and your good.

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        • Don't screw up. :P

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          • You're the sword bearer so u don't need to use gjallarhorn, so use red death

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            • If you use hunter obviously use the blade dancer you should fire more at St George. Then use super blah blah. Any other class hit 3 or 4 times depending hoelw comfortable you feel... There is a ledge on your left you can hide or Jump down the hole if your worried about him. Remember warlocks are awesome with sword... They have star dust in their pockets to make them faster

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            • Take Crota down 3 times so much easier

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              • Kill Crota faster than he kills you. I find that to be a successful strategy.

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              • I bet your favorite lipstick is penis

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                • Here's a tutorial on how to swordbearer most effectively: Know your RT counts, 18= death, 14th hit is enrage When swordbearer dies, grab the sword and run to the right, double jump to the HIGHER rock formation, crouch, count backwards from 3 (3...2...1...) then say down crota, Everyone should shoot simultaneously, watch the rockets and make sure at least 3 rockets have hit him, then try to get 4 hits (if he kneels way before you start hitting him, only do 3) Drop the sword blink strike him, as soon as you blink strike him start counting again, (3...2...1... Down crota) get a total of 7 RT's in the first sword The second and third sword only do 3 RT's per down, this will add to total counts of: End of first sword: 7 hits End of second sword: 13 (including first) End of third sword: 18 (death)

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                • Edited by ImHaha: 5/7/2015 10:17:46 PM
                  You can get four with a hunter easier. With the other characters do one slash and 3 slams each down and youll be good every time.

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                • Edited by AzorAhai1210: 5/7/2015 9:43:41 PM
                  I go for 4 and 4 the first sword. If there's time(usually there is) I go for another 3. Then depending on where his health is at you make a judgement call for next sword. If you can take him down next sword go for it with 4 and 4 again. If not hit him right before the "C" in Crota and head for ogre room. The biggest tip I can give is that the most important hit is the first hit. If you can hit him as he's going down you should easily get 4 every time. Hope it helps some people out

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                  • Ya, waggle yo bald head, grin like you just gobbled two flaming turds, then scream like only Bromnigul can. Win.

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                  • On first sword. 4,4,3. Second sword, 4,3 and you've officially 2 sworded hard mode

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                    • Work on it step by step, don't worry about getting 5 hits each down for a 3 down run start like this: 1. make sure you can jump up on the rock well and also jump to the platform (same if you are doing the mid strat) 2. when you down him make sure you get the 3, maybe 4 of you on top of it but make sure you get inviso quickly and safely 3. swipe away from him after 2nd down (or 3rd, whateves) 4. I personally run to ogre room pop my super and run up to crystal room inviso to stay safe, others stay in ogre room whole time, some run straight back up, its up to you.) 5. after next run repeat steps 1-3 6. whole team is in ogre room, handle business in there 7. when its time to leave, I always pop my super again and run out ACROSS the entire outdoor area while inviso as to avoid the thralls and boomers (as I am usually kinda hurt after swordbearing) 8. once its time for the final sword run just make sure you have an udea of how many hits it will take to enrage him (2,3, whatever) and keep an eye on that ENRAGE text to pop up, then drop sword and go inviso for the final blow(s) 9. kill crota, enjoy sweet loot 10. If sword is disappearing before final smack, then work on killing the swordbearer as close to crota as possible, and also make sure you are on top of the sword bearer when he dies. ( I usually just blast him with 2 rockets as I approach and by the time I am next to him, the crew has done the rest)

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                      • Red Death is your friend.

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                        • for normal, be 32, go for 3 r2 hits per down, be done in two swords, two downs per sword. keep it safe until you are confident.

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                          • 3 and 3 bro. Nothing fancy your first few sword runs. Keep it safe.

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                            • Just play it safe and go for 3 hits each rotation, so 6 hits total. It's safe and as long as no one else dies you'll complete crota easily.

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                              • Use super and vanish to pick up sword. Jumping up from middle square thing saves time allowing u to swipe back with the sword almost back inside or have a chance at 3 downs. when doing it in 3 swords i only do slams to allow for easy counting for when he will enrage. also be honest with yourself, if ur not on him while he is taking a knee only do 3 slams. Run into him while spamming r2 it makes u hit faster. Aim blink strike at the leg u r closest to. Once u r invis walk around him before picking up the sword, this helps prevent him from slamming u when u r invis. Also once i avoided his slam by jumping up as high as possible then swinging away. Although i wouldnt count on that working. Just a tip if u r ever in a sticky spot. Hope this helps

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                              • don't die don't get greedy learn how to count to 3

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                                • Depend on your team to kill him. Jump down when he is half health and throw a grenade towards him

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