JavaScript is required to use Bungie.net

Service Alert
Destiny 2 will be temporarily offline tomorrow for scheduled maintenance. Please stay tuned to @BungieHelp for updates.

Forums

Edited by BannedMythicAccount: 4/28/2015 11:11:04 AM
6
Yes, this was a really good vid! You're a thinker (i.e a pro-active player) this makes you far more dangerous than the average player. I envy that you can practice teamwork. I'm a solo player with no mic (my fault) so I can't afford the same luxuries with randoms who don't think all the time as well. I can tell you're constantly trying to out-think your opponent and to be fair, tips alone won't make players better, but how they think will. You're tackling the root of the problem, which makes this one of the best, if not the best overall improvement destiny video I've seen. Also this video is a good example of why PvP requires more intelligence and skill than PvE, without a doubt. When you're at a level of play where both sides are actively thinking there is no better comparison.
English

Posting in language:

 

Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

  • Thank you for the comment. Pvp does require intelligence but I believe experience is even more vital. Hopefully my videos give you a sense of being knowledgable so that you can apply it to gain experience.

    Posting in language:

     

    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

  • Edited by BannedMythicAccount: 4/28/2015 4:18:56 PM
    I see your point and can agree with why you think that. Experience is a major factor. Its all about growth and that takes a lot of practice and repetition of the right things to do. But some players just [b]'get it'[/b] faster than others that's all, you can put it down to intelligence or guidance or whatever, but understanding the game by going through the process of thinking your way through engagements as opposed to being told to do something because you're told it would benefit you, are two different things. While everyone can always improve and there's always areas for improvement. There are certain skills and ways of thinking that are transferable from game to game which help if you can identify why it benefits you in the game. i.e experience. Some people have far more experience than other people in the game, what separates them from others in terms of player ability comes in many forms such as physical skill, things like aim precision and reaction time, and then there is their own understanding of the game. I believe that sometimes experience isn't enough in the PvP realm, its the constant proactive thinking that I think is the greater emphasis that gets you in more beneficial situations and of course skill/execution is how you come out on top, even when the odds may be against you and of course teamwork and so much other things factor in. I believe legit consistent high k/d players are smarter in the way they perceive the game, because their actions deviate from what the average players does as a result of adapting and applying that, they get beneficial results from it. PvP to me is really mind vs mind not so much experience vs experience but I get what you mean. I'm gonna be honest here and say what you posted in your video should have been standard play for people in general, but the truth is it isn't because some players just don't think when they play, they are purely reactive, from their 1st game to their 1000th game. The root is that they may not care (which is fine, its only a game) but it also shows that they spend so much time playing a game and not thinking. Which kind of defeats the whole spirit of competition. A lot of people are gonna see your video and be like: [i]'wow this is eye opening'.[/i] Thats the people who have woken up and are capable of growing. Others will look at you video and be like [i] 'man, shotgun blink gameplay and you camped at times and used nooby felwinters'.' [/i] That's the type of people who refuse to grow and are doomed to repeat the same mistakes over and over with or without hundreds of hours of experience because they simply cannot see why you're doing the things you're doing to benefit yourself and the team. In many ways they reject these notions and as a result limit themselves in gameplay. Hence they may perform more badly and experience won't change it until they start changing their minds. What I'm saying is: it just starts from the mind man, everything else is just physical skill, experience, game changes and maybe latency issues lol. Also my bads about the length of this, I'm getting carried away typing this shit out on my phone, waiting for my food.

    Posting in language:

     

    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

  • Good read. I totally agree. But I will say that I didn't just hop into FPS and "get it." When I started Halo, I couldn't even hit the sky if I tried. So when I first started playing I was in 9th grade. I would use to sit down in math class, get graph paper, draw the Halo maps out from memory, and strategize. I was perhaps too into it at the time, but the interest I had for getting better really improved my performance quickly.

    Posting in language:

     

    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

  • Edited by BannedMythicAccount: 4/28/2015 5:13:12 PM
    I can kinda relate man, when I started Halo I was 8, the graphics were like real life to me and I didn't know how to play. Just beating the game on normal was an achievement to me. *story-time* I didn't get into 'PvP' till Halo 3 (9th grade as well) and I remember my first kill on Guardian with an assault rifle being something glorious. I started out with my friend who was equally bad as me at the time. By the end of the first month I was still stuck on rank 40 while he was just around 30. We both still had the same experience, but then something happens out of the blue, he just understood how to play the game, he stopped using ARs as a main, he started using the sniper and BR and getting headshots with it more. He got to 50 and the roles switched, I was the one who was behind, yet we had around the same experience as in time played. Truth was, he got smarter and in turned played smarter, I was still dumb, playing like rambo with infinite lives. He would help 'carry' me in team slayer to keep my rank up but its not the same when you learn to carry yourself. At my peak in H3 I reached 45. But I gained something far more valuable to me than a 50 in that game, and that was an openminded-ness that I was the dumb one playing dumb tactics. Since then I slowly improved in Reach, than a great deal of other games. Destiny was an easy fit for me, I 'got it' straight away, despite playing the game with handicaps (no sound on tv, no mic, solo player, far bigger screen, sniping only in a shotgun designed map/sandbox) but anyways, yeah, I can agree. Experience made me the player I am today without a doubt. But if I wasn't aware enough to notice that I was the dumb one making dumb plays, it would have mattered, as today I would still be doing dumb plays because of my mentality of 'keep doing what you're doing' that I adopted for the majority of my H3 career. I guess it's being self critical that can sometime lead to improvement. Experience may just gives you more chances to be self critical/aware. Which is why I agree with you that experience is definitely something that gives you an edge. Edit- I jumped into Halo Reach this week, just to get a taste of Halo again and met a team of Inheritors, one with 250,000 kills in matchmaking. I hadn't touch the game matchmaking in years and was still able to wipe the floor with him. I really don't know what to say about that in terms of a experience argument though. Some people just won't get it I guess and I'm confident to say the same about Destiny players.

    Posting in language:

     

    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

  • dude reading your replies was a good time for me. +1 for long posts that have depth to them

    Posting in language:

     

    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

  • Well said!

    Posting in language:

     

    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

You are not allowed to view this content.
;
preload icon
preload icon
preload icon