I would like to suggest adding "don't respond to spam" into the forum rules.

Yup. I feel your pain and trust me, we are all aware of the condition our forums are in at the moment. On one hand, there are things we can do (and are working on) to improve things - adding more moderators, empowering existing moderators with better tools, implementing new measures to block/ban offendors, etc.. This stuff is all being worked on but unfortunately won't happen over night. On the other hand - some of these problems will never go away. With an audience as large as ours (which is growing by the day), we will ALWAYS have people coming around who will never read the rules and whose only mission in life is to be a jerk. We can blacklist them until they make new accounts, and then we can try other measures until they find a way around them - but inevitably we'll always be chasing them and they'll find ways to keep being asses. Our three moderators (plus Frankie, Acrhonos and myself) have a lot of work cut out for us - the amount of activity on these forums is staggering. Yes, I am adding more people but I don't just want to throw more bodies at the problem until we have some solid plans to make sure we're doing it right. LUCKILY the vast majority of our members here are great people who have great things to contribute to our site. Until we get things improved on this end, I honestly think the best thing we can do is to ignore the bull-blam!-, stop encouraging them and playing into their traps (DON'T EVEN RESPOND). We can also all tone down our constant complaints and comments about how we're superior to all the new members - so someone doesn't have quite as an intelligent response as you do, or someone doesn't know as much about a particular subject or god forbid missed the earlier thread that answered their question (it's not like they can search or anything) - let's cut some slack around here. Animosity breads animosity. We should all chill a little and remember we're here to have fun and hang out. The Bungie.net team and our moderators will do the best we can to solve these problems as they arise and we appreciate your help in identifying problematic posts and users. This issue has been beat to death and we will continue to work on it. Thanks for supporting us and our site, and for now, let's just have some fun and move on. =)

Bungie should get one assigned to each of the main forums so there is always a mod at the forums.

That's awesome. I just hope all the money that will be spent on those awesome tools won't degrade the quality of Halo 2. =P

Indeed, Yoozel. But I was referring more to those who are new to the forums and don't have a proper grasp of the rules. It's also true that these people probably should have had the common sense to read the rules when they were presented to them...many times.

You should also keep in mind that the moderators have lives too, they can't be here to babysit us 24/7.

The spamming in these forums are growing to an extent that will soon ruin these forums. They do need more moderators.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Banshee Barron I personally believe you're right. I'd love to add some discipline to the ranks, but at the same time, I'd hate to have to ban hundreds of users. It would be wrong to alienate loyal fans, at least in my opinion. For example, put yourself in their shoes, and imagine you didn't scout out this forum. If the strict rules were in place, you would post on a forum, and be banned for no noticeable reason (at least to you). You'd feel left out, wouldn't you? Come on, you're a smart guy. You must see that doing that would be wrong. [/quote] There is unfortunately no way to alleviate the issue without alienating or offending a large group. For now, let`s stick to our guns and carry on.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheLittlefossie [quote]Posted by: mithrandir1 I will be a moderator.[/quote] I told you that you should redeem yourself, I gave you a chance, but this is too much, get out or shut up. You are the most twisted person I have seen in a long time.[/quote] Psh, twisted? He's nice compared to the ones from the [i]old days[/i].

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheLittlefossie [quote]Posted by: mithrandir1 I will be a moderator.[/quote] I told you that you should redeem yourself, I gave you a chance, but this is too much, get out or shut up. You are the most twisted person I have seen in a long time.[/quote] The hate...is swelling in you now! [Edited on 6/13/2004 4:15:45 PM]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Aeternus I have been reading the posts at this forum for several months, finally deciding to join it yesterday to add some intellect to the collective blah that seems so abundant around here. So many offenses of one-word posts, flaming, etc. It doesn't really seem proper... I may be a newbie to these forums, but not to forums in general. Every other well-developed forum that I've been to (including my own) has rather strictly enforced a group of simple rules that benefit every decent member. What is the point in making a post that simply uses one or two words to answer question or statement without even elaborating on the reason(s) why you think so? (I.E. "No, that's wrong.") Even worse is the most foul one-word post. That is just..spam really. I believe that a good deal more of an effort needs to be made to remedy these problems, as well as others that I haven't mentioned. I''m absolutely sure that [i]somebody[/i] here will use do one of the things I mentioned in this thread as a reply.. Some will agree, others will not. What a strange first thread...[/quote] I personally believe you're right. I'd love to add some discipline to the ranks, but at the same time, I'd hate to have to ban hundreds of users. It would be wrong to alienate loyal fans, at least in my opinion. For example, put yourself in their shoes, and imagine you didn't scout out this forum. If the strict rules were in place, you would post on a forum, and be banned for no noticeable reason (at least to you). You'd feel left out, wouldn't you? Come on, you're a smart guy. You must see that doing that would be wrong.

[quote]Posted by: mithrandir1 I will be a moderator.[/quote] I told you that you should redeem yourself, I gave you a chance, but this is too much, get out or shut up. You are the most twisted person I have seen in a long time. [Edited on 6/13/2004 4:13:19 PM]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mithrandir1 I will be a moderator.[/quote] You'd be a mod as great as Frankie! (this is no compliment)

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mithrandir1 I will be a moderator.[/quote] No. You won`t.

No, your wrong. j/k, your right. The mods here do the best job they can, but there needs to be more of them to get this place cleaned up. As it is now there are only a few hours of moderated posting a day, and the rest is free for all. If they could get more mods this could significantly reduce the ammount of useless posts.

I will be a moderator.

Also, remember that we're due for some new (and possibly improved) moderators soon. I know there won't be a lot, but I expect maybe three new mods will come in, totalling up at six. In addition with the three supreme mods (Achronos, Sketch and Frankie) we will have a total of +/- nine mods running around.

If we made these forums perfect, which I wish, a lot of Bungie fans wouldn't be able to follow the rules. It is sad but true. Right now making these forums perfect would piss everybody off. As I said, I wish we could make them perfect but we really can. Just do what you can to make them better.

The mods let that stuff slide here just because there is so much of it. Just as long as what you say makes sense and has a purpoes then it's fine. If you want stricter rules stay out of the flood forum. You still can't spam here. If I said that you could one of the mods would probably yell at me.

Spamming is Bad