Veteran relic holder here. It is at the stage now where most people I end up playing with have never used the relic. Granted earlier 2 of the guys hadn't yet been part of a raid team, but another 2 are veterans of both raids on hard and yet suck with the relic. Sure, they know what you are meant to do but putting it into action was a different story. The other thing that gets me, when the newbies get teleported, is how many damn times you have to tell them not to run forwards, dont follow relic holder, shoot the damn oracles, grenade the minotaur, stay the -blam!- together for cleansing purposes, single file through portal, don't sprint, go to the middle, don't use a rocket this time, vacate the bubble via the titan shield to the rear, wipe cos 4 of you got killed doing the exact opposite of what you are being told. Ok, in all honesty I just miss players who listen to instructions and actually follow them.