So I was playing the Vault of Glass with a bunch of randoms this week, good group of guys. That being said, we got stuck on the gate keeper checkpoint. Well it turns out that I was the only person able to use the relic. Everyone was a lvl 31 or 32. Not good. Had a 32 tell me that he had no idea what to do in the VoG raid. I don't think that I'm an elitist prick but I feel like the raids should be unlocked. Beat VoG normal before you can attempt VoG hard. Beat VoG hard before you can attempt CE normal. Beat CE normal before you can attempt CE hard. Just my opinion. [b]EDIT 1:[/b] I am loving to hear that some us relic holders are still around. I think that when looking for a fresh VoG run on the forums that I need to start requesting for relic holders. [b]EDIT 2:[/b] Just an observation that I've made that my relic holding bretheren can probably agree with. When holding the relic during the Atheon battle I have noticed a scary amount of guardians shooting oracles with non VoG weapons. In my opinion the only non VoG oracle disruptor weapon being used to destroy oracles should be "Super Good Advise" since it's essentially unlimited bullets on a heavy machine gun with no need to reload. [b]EDIT 3:[/b] I think tonight I'm going to look for a group to run VoG with. Requirements will be maxed out lvl 30 VoG raid gear only. Oracle disruptor weapons only. Exceptions to that could be the Vex Mythoclast, Super Good Advise, Icebreaker, Truth, and Gjallarhorn. No Crota weapons. 2 Hunters, 2 Warlocks, and 2 Titans. Vault of Glass run in the purest form. I think it would be a fun nostalgic run. [b]*Some awesome replies guys. It was fun seeing your thoughts on it. [/b]