Seriously, i get that there is no new raid. It sucks yes. But the arena could be just as good if not better. And before you say "am arena is not on par with a raid", you dont know that, since it isnt out yet. This entire DLC has the potential to be something great. It makes a difference from the usual, learn to adapt to change. Not to mention the fact that [b]a new raid was never promised by Bungie[/b]. If you can show me proof of Bungie stating they promised the raid, i accept my mistake and remove this part. But nonetheless it doesnt matter, [b]because you aren't getting a raid[/b] [b]quick edit;[/b]ghost has proven to me that there was proof of raid being promised, so this is kinda invalid, were still not getting it though Can i also just point out that you, the community asked for this? You wanted variety, more PvE, upgradeable old guns, and you are getting it. And its great, because it means [b]Bungie does listen[/b]. This DLC shows that they do care about the community, and this DLC is what you asked for, so stop whining Plus, all the people complaining, thats all you're doing. Complaining. It isnt gonna make a new raid pop up in the DLC, so you are just gonna have to live with it. And did you all just ignore the 365 fatebringer? This could mean we could upgrade all our old guns to be par with the next update! You guys need to be more open minded. This entire DLC could be awesome, or it could be horrible. No one will know until it's out. Once the DLC releases, then you can complain about how bad it is, if it is even bad. But if its an awesome DLC, i will be making fun of everyone who made angry posts, then ended up playing it non stop. That is all, have a nice day. Edit: you dont have to agree with me, and i dont care if you do or dont, just dont be a jerk about it Edit 2: i just want to point out that im not exactly happy about the no raid thing either, i mean i paid for season pass. im just not letting it ruin my experience. Im trying to be excited for the new DLC and the new stuff that would come, even with no raid. Try to have an open mind guys Edit 3: i just want to put this here as a point: Bungie did say they would give us a raid later this year. If the raid will be free to all HoW owners, then were fine. [b]but if we have to pay for it i give you all my meaningless consent to blast bungie as much as possible[/b]