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originally posted in: Should Xur sell Gjallarhorn again?
4/9/2015 8:31:21 PM
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It's amusing how people consider RNG as earning. Gjallarhorn is not earned, it's randomly dropped. On the other hand the coins you receive from completing various in game tasks etc are earned... Xur should sell gjallarhorn because the RNG more often than not hinders high end players that are both committed to the game and have ridiculous amounts of game time. This applies to all exotics for example there are still people that can't get a vex to drop eight months after release.
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  • Edited by da boewinkle: 4/22/2015 12:43:44 PM
    I carryied my friend through crota he got blackhammer and ghally while I got two no land beyonds I need both of his guns

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  • Since i hit 32 with my warlock and titan, I only get energies and shard drops now, very, very rarely do I get raid gear/weapons. Cant even remember last time I got an exotic. I do 3 crota norms and 3 crota hard raids and I only get shards and -blam!-ing energies lol

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  • Edited by euphoricplacebo: 4/25/2015 3:53:19 AM
    This^. Gotta love the 2 shard/energy drop from downing crota. Happened to me NUMEROUS occasions

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  • Yes thank you I can't get ghorn to drop at all

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  • TĤĔŃ ŚĔĹĹ ĨŤ ŦoŔ 100 STRANG COINS .. BAM

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  • BÚŤ I ĎoŃ'Ť ČÁŔĔ .. I ŴoÚĹĎ MÚČĤ ŔÁŤĤĔŔ ĨŤ ßĔ Á ĎŔoP. A ĹoŤ MoŔĔ exited

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  • People who do this ^ make me want to dismantle my ghorn and discard the shard.

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  • Cool do that!

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  • Awww you don't have one. I could give you one of mine. I get one almost every week now.

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  • Yes that's way it really happens you get one exotic and you'll get a lot of that exotic drop more often

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  • Ya it does, it's silly. Had 5 URs 6 HLs and 4 TL, as well as 6 TLWs. Had too many exotic bounties to count.

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  • Lol, you wish ;)

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  • , nah not really hate to see a beautiful piece of machinery be turned into a shard like that I'm more happy that you have one gratulations to all the ones who do have ÁŃĎ one of these days I will have oŃĔ ĹoĹ

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  • [quote]It's amusing how people consider RNG as earning. Gjallarhorn is not earned, it's randomly dropped. On the other hand the coins you receive from completing various in game tasks etc are earned... Xur should sell gjallarhorn because the RNG more often than not hinders high end players that are both committed to the game and have ridiculous amounts of game time. This applies to all exotics for example there are still people that can't get a vex to drop eight months after release.[/quote] Are you stupid? People EARN THE CHANCE FOR IT THEREFORE THEY EARNED IT!!!

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  • Or get carried through 10 nightfall whole afk. Then get it, yes I have carried someone through 10 nightfalls while they were afk the entire time, they were my buddy so I didn't mind helping but when they got ghorn and I got shards I was mad.

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  • Edited by Colgate: 4/20/2015 5:40:34 AM
    So my friend who has been playing this game since launch, putting in hundreds of hours of time into Nightfalls, Raids, even Crucible all in an effort to get Gjallarhorn, who finally recieved it yesterday after a gruelling run of Hard Crota's End, you're telling me he didn't earn it? After all the time and work he put into this game?

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  • Yes, because that could of just as easily dropped for a blind guy with a disconnected controller. Thats like a guy going to the gym everyday and working out vs a guy going there and hoping to find something that will get him jacked.

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  • Except it didn't just "easily drop" for my friend and he wasn't putting in no work at all hoping for a Gjallarhorn anyway like that second guy, he was exactly like that first guy going to the gym every day in that he's playing (almost) every day. I can understand saying that a guy who gets Gjallarhorn after joining in the last minute of a Nightfall didn't earn it, that's obvious. But you can't honestly say that my friend who has completed probably 100+ Nightfalls and dozens of hours-long Raid runs ever since release didn't earn his Gjallarhorn. He put in his time and effort, over 800 hours of it and he got rewarded. I'd he earned it a hell of a lot more than someone who just did a couple of easy, maybe 20-minute long strikes so that certain someone could simply buy it. Don't get me wrong, they both earned it, but you just can't compare hundreds of hours to like 40 minutes.

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  • He still didnt technically speaking "earn" it. The game didn't say "you've put in a crap ton of hours so here's your gally!" He could've just as likely played another 7000 hours and never seen one, therefore it is luck of the draw assuming price of entry has been met. A poker player doesn't suddenly win 50 million dollars upon playing his 300th game, it's alllll in the draw. If Xur can selling icebreaker TWICE in the last 2 months he can sell gally.

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  • I think the point is that RNG is the bane of many high end player that put in the game time. The not "earning" factor applies to any and all gun, not just Gjallarhorn, as destiny used random variables (RNG) to determine ones loot. While it's a great thing getting a Gjallarhorn. I should know, (700-800 hours when I got my first Gjallahorn) it's still not earned because there is no definitive way of guaranteeing a Gjallahorn drop. No gun, excluding exotic bounties are definitively earned by a single method however players that put the hours are rewarded, eventually...

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  • RNG

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  • My point being playtime/in game hours, skill, beating the nightfall and getting blessed by the RNG gods etc, play no factor in the RNG system. It's random. Fact. Therefore the Gjallarhorn should be sold because all the people that haven't "earned" it yet, can therefore buy one with the vast wealth of strange coins they undoubtably have from the many hours of game time they've put into the game.

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  • Xurners think there easy acquired strange coins are earned LOL AHAHAH

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  • Literally nothing is earned in this game. Except respect for being a good sport or good at raids.

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