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4/7/2015 7:56:23 PM
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Are you for Palestine or Israel

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Neither one

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It's all one big headache

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Just wondering. My personal stance is that even if Palestinians were forced off to make room for Israel, that doesn't change the fact that we don't honor no longer existing nations. Do we have people saying," Free the Roman Empire " or," Free Texas "? No, so why should we,"Free Palestine"?
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  • Fight me -blam!-ers

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  • Palestine never existed, it's always been the Jews country.

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      • ALLAH AHKBAR

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        • If the palestinians put down their weapons there would be peace. If Isreal put down their weapons there would be a slaughter.

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          • Palestine because there defending from invaders

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          • The state of Israel daily use their military to kill civilians. Including women and children. In Europe we find this sick, in the US you're influenced by crazy f Zionist propaganda.

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            • Edited by AbsorbedPit6071: 4/8/2015 6:57:24 PM
              Both sides are assholes. Me and my friends usually qoute a Swedish comedian (Magnus Betnėr, check out his english stuff) when discussing global warming/politics "Global warming isn't a problem as long as Israel has nuclear weapons" and about palestine "If killing three innocent israelis in a cafe really is god's will, don't you think he could have done it, if god now exists".

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            • At first glance, I read 'Palpatine' as in Star Wars, instead of Palestine

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              • [quote]Just wondering. My personal stance is that even if Palestinians were forced off to make room for Israel, that doesn't change the fact that we don't honor no longer existing nations. Do we have people saying," Free the Roman Empire " or," Free Texas "? No, so why should we,"Free Palestine"?[/quote] I bet you would change your opinion if a foreign power forced you out of your home saying that your country no longer existed. Also, the two examples you listed aren't relevant to this discussion. Texas won its independence from Mexico and [i]chose[/i] to join the United States. And while the western Roman Empire fell, the eastern one survived and was eventually reorganized into the Roman Catholic Church theocracy. My father grew up in a Palestinian refugee camp after his family was forced out of their home. Still has the key to their house that was torn down shortly after they were evicted. Most people in the western world only hear the Israeli's side of the story, which of course heavily favors them. That doesn't change the fact that the Palestinian people (who had lived in that area for several centuries at least) were completely disregarded when the Allied Powers decided to take land that didn't belong to them and give it away.

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                • Your argument could be used against Israel as well

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                  • I'm against any theocracy.

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                    • Israel side- the whole allies felt bad for Jews after the holocaust so the British gave them a small territory and they can live along with the Palestines, but the Israelis pushed out and kicked out the Palestine people, the Palestines are also Muslim so the other countries who are Muslim attacked Israel and surprisingly lost So the Palestine's have no country and blamed the creation of Israel on the west, and extremists were against the west and some Palestinians were radicalised On one note the kurds are in a tight spot so it could be possible that Palestines and Kurds could team up

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                      • WWIII GOGO

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                        • ALLAH ACKBAR

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                          • I used to be split but Netanyahu has made it explicitly clear that he has no interest in peace, and has done everything he can to prevent Palestine from exploring diplomatic options. Good job re-electing a war hawk Israel.

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                            • I'm clearly pro-Israel, what with their whole murdering-entire-communities-of-innocent-people deal.

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                            • Edited by Reckless Grizzly: 4/8/2015 10:33:25 AM
                              To understand the situation with interest one must look back in the past, before & during World War II and the aftermath. Many variables led to the present situation. The allies refusal (and even established Jews in New York) to open up the Western borders to the European Jewish communities. The Zionists' obsession to claim the "promised land" and high ranking Jews making secret dealings with high ranking officials of the 3rd Reich to accelerate the realization of their fantasy. The ignorance and blindness of the muslim community to relate/sympathize with the 3rd Reich against the Jewish community (the 3rd Reich had racial hatred, the muslims had (has?) religious hatred, major difference). That's just the tip of the iceberg. Many books exist about the subject. Also, "holocaust" is not exclusive to the Jewish massacre. It is derived from Greek, "holokauston" and meaning: consumed by fire.

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                            • Edited by A Rising Wind: 4/7/2015 10:53:24 PM
                              It's all Abrahams fault, couldn't keep his hands off the maid. That said im invoking Godwin's law, it's the [url=http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law]-godwinslaw!-[/url]/hitlers fault. Hitler hates Jews -> holocaust -> world feels sorry for Jews -> Zionist want to go biblical home -> England helps establish Israel, steals land from Arabs -> Arabs pissed attack -> Jews tired of getting pushed around, beat some Arab ass -> England realizes they should never have gotten involved -> U.S. wants Mideast ally, swoops in to help. Illuminati confirmed. Hitlers fault. No hitler = Jews still in Europe, no Israel

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                              • Dude two words. Islam and Muslims. Though the Muslim part is due to the Biblical story of Abrahams technical first born Ishmael who would go on in life of having people being as crazy as a wild ass (donkey). And sure Islam is of course a [i]Religion of peace[/i]. Right?

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                                  Israel, because reasons.

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                                  • I'm 13 years old and I from Israel I hate this war so much

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                                  • People say "free Palestine" because Palestinians still exist under the harsh subjugation of Israel. Palestine was given to Jews by the British for the reason of... Jews. And for those who squeal "holocaust!", it was actually decided that Palestine be handed to the Jews in the Balfour Declaration after WWI, not WWII. It's sort of like what America did to the natives except they bomb the reservations too.

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                                  • Exo

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                                  • Why is this thread even a thing

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                                  • Edited by Logfish111: 4/7/2015 10:45:20 PM
                                    Both. If the majority of people on both sides had their way then it would be 2 states already. It's just the people calling the shots on either side (Far-right zionists in Israel and Hamas in Palestine) that make everyone hate each other. Therefore, I support the majority of people on both sides, because most of them are well-meaning people who just want to get on with their lives and find the best possible solution.

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