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Edited by The Tower Ball:
4/7/2015 5:14:26 AM
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The cons of being a sherpa...
Now don't get me wrong, I love raiding with you guys and watching you all get loot, it's probably the most rewarding thing in Destiny at the moment for me, plus I usually end the night with a few more people on my friends list. Whenever I get sent a message asking for help I'll wholeheartedly hop in and assist you, but I'm frustrated with the people who every day, even when I'm in the middle of helping out another group, send me messages asking for carries with an activity and never say "thanks" when I complete it for them.
I'm here to help you and teach you the raid encounter all while cracking jokes and having fun, not solo Crota for you three times every week. I'm also disappointed by the absence of your eagerness to learn some simple things in Destiny, such as learning the VoG jump maze after you failed gliding across the past half dozen times, or keeping the totems while I build the bridge during Crota's End.
The content is supposed the be challenging, yes, but the focus should be about having a good time. Personally in my opinion, if you only do the raids for loot and are not having a good time unless you get what you wanted, then raids are not for you. But to each his own.
Another thing that bothers me are the people that ask to join Crota on Hard Mode with brand new weapons. I don't intend to sound like an elitist in any way, but when you're doing the hardest content in the game at the moment, please take time to level up your Valedictorian and your Icebreaker or what have you.
I just noticed I went on a little rant there, but I hope I was coherent enough for you guys to understand me. I'm also not speaking on behalf of all sherpas or speaking against all people who know a sherpa, but if you can somehow relate, feel free to post in the comments and add on to my post. Criticism is welcome as well, I want to hear the other side of the argument.
Tl:Dr - Please be willing to learn from sherpas, don't expect to be carried, even if it happens to happen. Make sure you're prepared for the content and try to have fun.
Edit: On mobile, will edit for better formatting when I get home, sorry if it's a mess up there.
Edit 2: I'm on Xbox One, for those of you who were wondering.
Edit 3: My main argument isn't about my not receiving a "thank you", but rather it's against the people that take advantage of sherpas and their services to get their raids done.
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i don't sherpa HM anything. you can learn everything you need to know from NM runs and some YouTube. too many people want to be carried through HM and the utter frustration, people getting snippy and angry wipe after wipe because they're 32 and 'omg this should be easy' and 'y i can't melee supplicants' and 'lol i fell out of my bubble' for the fortieth time over, it's just not worth the hassle.
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14 RepliesEdited by Cypher02xd: 4/6/2015 7:05:50 PMI too have taking to sherpa'ing (is that a word?). I have a few ground rules. 1) I will not carry you. You will help the group out, if you come in as a 27 having never done a raid expecting to be carried through a normal Crota I will kindly ask you to leave. I make new people all run the abyss together, we form the bridge the right way and we do everything else "by the book". If you can't help yourself by being an asset to the team, if you can't put some work in to get better than I am not going to do it for you either. 2) Have fun! Laugh and joke around with people. I do this because I'm bored with the game and it'S rewarding, I love hearing someone yell because they got something good from the raid. Hell, I died on Saturday at the bridge and I couldn't help but burst into laughter because of how stupid a move it was. 3) Be willing to listen and learn. My goal in doing it is to get you comfortable enough so that you may pay it forward to other new raiders. If you don't want to listen and keep dying as a result, you will be removed from the fire team. Not trying to be a dick, I just expect you to be a team player since that's what a raid requires. edit: Rule 4: SEND ME A MESSAGE WITH WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. If you added me because of my long post about helping people that's great, but I'm not going to leave any activity to help you if you won't take the time to message me. Don't spam me with invites, I won't accept if I don't know what I'm joining into. I consider this to be simple courtesy.
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3 RepliesEdited by JHarv: 4/7/2015 7:16:24 AMWelcome to life. People are leeches. I had a chick friend back in first year college who needed help with physics homework one day. She quickly learned how good I was at physics and how good I was as a teacher. So a few assignments go by and I find myself doing more and more of her work. Until the point where one day she comes and asks me to do her assignment for her because "I'm really good at it and it's easy for me". I ask her what she's even tried on her own and just get a blank stare and some "ugh nevermind then" comment like I'm the a-hole. I'm happy to teach, to help, but I'm not here to do it for you so you can get the credit, especially when you don't even care enough to try to learn. Try to perform. Needless to say, we aren't friends anymore. Some people just want to coast through life. Latch on to people who know what they're doing so they can feel they played a part in it. Really they're just useless and full of sh*t.
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2 RepliesWhy are you running the raids when you don't get any rewards? They're not fun, and it's very repetitive. Don't you have school, work or friends that you could be doing instead?
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Couldn't agree more. I love helping players out and especially in the raids but what gets me lately is that no one seems to want to learn it rather they just want to complete it with as little effort as possible. Just try asking a new player to pick up the relic on Vog or stay down on the bottom for Oracles. You'll get crickets The best thing new players can do is learn to do the so called "hard parts" like relic holding or sword bearing. It's fun and not nearly as hard as most make it out to be but you'll never learn if you don't try and probably fail a few times. I'd rather wipe 10 times with a group I thought was actually learning something than complete the raid for them and know they had no idea how to do it without a sherpa.
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Always show your appreciation for someone willing to give there time to help you out, guardians
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10 RepliesYou sound like you must really suck at raids, and your k/d is horrible
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I am on ps4 and can't play with you but I wanna say thanks anyway. Hate seeing the good guys go under :(
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i agree with this post so so much good stuff there!
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10 RepliesThis thread is proof that these herpa derpa sherpas are more self centered than you think. Destiny's content is in no way a challenge and yes needs to be learned but with the watered down gameplay, many never take it seriously and even these derpa sherpa herpas are incapable of helping someone. This game is monotonous and the only con i see here, is this fool bitching about what people are capable of in a game thats only challenge is getting feedback from the developers. People suck man, and when youre a shit player yourself, you can only teach so much. If you want thanks for helping people understand this terrible games mechanics and simple strategy's, you cant expect people to "thank you". Sounds like you need to find a new hobby, rather than trying to be some leader (looking for special recognition) in a pathetic game such as this.
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Thank you for your dedication (to the game and to the community) and generosity (for your precious time)!
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I love carrying less skilled people through raids. I just hate it when they spam me with invites when I'm clearly busy doing something. God dammnit man. Its so annoying.
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2 RepliesYou will fit in perfect with out clan Don't be afraid to give us a visit
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I completely agree with this. I got an invite from a fireteam of 5 today for vog, and I had already done it this week but decided to help. We got to atheon (~3 hours later) and two titans kept using their bubble right in the middle of the platform where we were shooting atheon. Obviously none of our bullets we're going though, so I told them twice to stop using their bubbles (which were armor and blessing, not weapons) and they told me to -blam!- off, so I left. But seriously, how stupid can you be..
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I feel like I should be eating something with curry while reading this...
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Well said! Shouldn't have to say any of it! The worst part of any raid (in my opinion) is hearing everyone at the end complain about what they got. I love accomplishing objectives and cracking jokes. Good on you sir, will hit you up.
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7 RepliesWhat's a sherpa again?
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I know this feel.
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I hate the blind invites. And the spam invites.
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Our clan has a guy that is so nice and helps everyone do everything. He doesn't get upset but we sure do when they are so ungrateful. I agree with sending invites. Send a message with what you are doing do not just spam with invites. The reason I say this is: 1. I could horrible gear for where ever you are going or whatever you are doing. Let me know what we are doing so I can gear up accordingly. 2. I ignore ppl who spam me, especially if I take the time to send you a message back and ask what are we doing and I get a blank invited back. You then get ignored. 3. You are asking me for help I should not have to do look and see what you are doing. You tell me and ask me for help 4. I will not always respond right away. If I am about to die in a raid/NF/Daily I am not going to die to message you back, give me a few min. 5. If I am by myself you can join me and ask me for help (it makes it harder to turn you down) OR you can help me with what I am doing and we will go kill Crota or Atheon. I didn't read all the posts but my one pet peeve is when you want me to come in a lead and then don't listen or complain about your roll. You are boomer duty cause your rocket launcher has one shot and you are low level. Don't complain go get better gear. Don't tell me how to kill Crota this is my fifty eleventh time with the sword putting it up his butt. I think I can manage. I say gamer tag xyz you agreed to shoot bommers and 3 members died while you were shooting Crota OR 4 ppl are shooting boomers and no one shooting Crota...AHHH..frustration.... Those make me what to go old school Rock on you! KNOW YOUR ROLE JABROONIE!....
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1 ReplyEdited by CJBulldogs: 4/7/2015 2:11:22 AMOnly help the ones willing to help themselves. Thats how I sherpa, meaning that those that don't take time to put effort into leveling their weapons/light level from week to week will not get repeat runs from me. Ones looking for free hand outs without actively learning the raid and looking to improve to be able to do it themselves w/o me some day don't deserve the help when others out there want to but just need some help the first few times.
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If you want another Sherpa as a friend add me, I'm on One also. (Dutch2099). 3 Gally's and all the toys, run a solid bubble game on hard, good sniper, know my strats. I like helping people as well, as a result 2 of my gally's still need a bit of love but they are well on their way.
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2 RepliesIs my phone glitching or do you have three maxed gjallys? If this is the case I have limbs to offer you for one
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I do this all the time! I would link up with you but I'm on ps4 :( Anyways you pretty much summed up all the annoying things about being one, but I have to say the pros heavily out-weigh the cons props to you
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7 RepliesI've been a sherpa since before the term was coined for Destiny. All your points are accurate. Sherpas should not be carrying the team but they teach others how to carry their own weight.
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1 Reply10th Mountain, Sherpa reporting for duty :)
