Can we all just agree that getting either set of gear takes absolutely no skill. Your two options are: 1: have to suffer through a raid where everyone cheeses everything and your just handed gear or 2: have to suffer through crucible, where it doesn't matter if you win or lose - you still get points, you still complete bounties, and with the buff once you do win you get most of your points back for the loss tokens. get to 32 any way you can. Anyone that says either of these options 'takes mad skillz yo' is lying to themselves.