Bungie made a mistake by nerfing top of the line guns like Suros, Vex, etc. These guns [b]DID NOT[/b] need nerfs. What pvp needed was buffs to the pulse rifles and some scout rifles. Funny thing is Bungie created another Suros but its name is Red Death.. burst ..burst.. dead.. I expect Bungie to bring some stats out about that when enough people complain and then decide to buff another weapon class.
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If Red Death gets a nerf, Thorn needs one too, see, it's like dominoes :/
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Thats y they dnt need to nerf lol Everything becomes pee shooters
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Exactly Before suros regime was my go to weapon, it did 45 damage to the head and now it only does 31, that's such a huge amount of damage reduction to one gun, it's an exotic for a reason!
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I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL! Every time i go through my inventory i wish Suros was what it used to be.
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The vex needed the first nerf for pve. It was truly the only op weapon. It was melting people in two shots.
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The vex was fine how it was all this talk about nerf this or nerf that is insanity. Its suppose to melt enemies its the best gun in the game!
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In pve it was ridiculous. It needed the nerf. Maybe you weren't on the receiving end of one pre nerf.
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In PVE? I guess you mean PVP because since when started dregs and vandals to cry for nerfs? ;-)
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Yeah I meant pvp. It was crazy op in the crucible at the beginning. My bad
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All of these so called "op" guns that everyone complains about dont exist. Those people need to get better at the game.
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Maye people with these op guns need to get better because they ned them to get kills. I have every exotic and purposly use no land beyond because people quit after getting constntly killed by it.
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The people that complain about vex, suros, and red death need to get better because they are the ones that complain about dying and how op it is. It has nothing to do with the skill of the people with those guns.
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True but most of the "op" weapons are point and click. People should know how to counter them at this point but whatever.
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agreed
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Were you around when the vex first hit the crucible?
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yup ive been here since day one.
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I was and it was hilariously broken. A friend got it a few hours before the patch when we got through HM the first time. The kill time on it was on the level of a heavy machine gun.
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Hardest to get back in the day there were only 29s running the raids with almost 1 hours wiped at Atheon so yeah it needed to Op back then but now it is nowhere to be seen All people use are Pulse Rifles also nothing but RD Suros has vanished, Monte Carlo was never there to begin with, hawkmoon is intermittent and thorn is go to due to DoT Fusion Rifles are scarce, blink shotguns became popular Heavy being used more like reserve rather than boost Snipers are seen here and there So this isn't balanced at all I say revert back and keep the PR buff just change the ARs to what they were and let HCs have their accuracy back with Thorn's being a little less The accuracy nerf for HC made Hawkmoon a little hard to hit someone in first try
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Bump, though HCs did take a big hit with the patch since it should be dependent on accuracy and head shots but they are not accurate anymore which makes people just spray body shots after the other which completely ruins the role of the handcannons, including thorn and last word...