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3/30/2015 5:24:53 PM
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No, this is wrong. The media plays very little into the overall motivation for why school shootings occur. The overwhelmingly predominant reason people have gone on sprees like those is revenge. The perpetrators were, or believed they were, wronged or victimised in some way (such as being victims of bullying, as the Columbine shooters were) by others.
By the way, [url=http://pss.sagepub.com/content/12/5/353.short]playing violent video games is linked to increased aggression[/url], which obviously doesn't mean they cause people to go on killing sprees, but probably increase the risk of that happening.
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That study is from 2001. Coming from a time when video games weren't really mainstream yet, and games such as Postal were pushing the limits, people acted quite hysterically over the subject of violence in video games. I believe that study to be quite biased since it was conducted during such a time.
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There are plenty more recent papers along with others I linked in another post below. These are just some which have been published since 2011. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022103111000928 http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ab.21487/abstract http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022103113001595 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022103112002259 http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ab.21551/abstract http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022103112000029 http://psp.sagepub.com/content/40/5/578 etc...
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Edited by Tori baybee: 4/1/2015 8:09:52 AMThese are all focusing on short term aggression though. I'd be more willing to believe the notion if studies showed people becoming less empathetic to photos of soldiers slain in battle or other real depictions of their video game counterparts. But simply being more irritable after a period of frustration doesn't convince me
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No they aren't. The last one in particular explicitly states there are short and long term effects, and that study was without a doubt the largest of them all.
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Take away the short term then. Aggression doesn't increase the likelihood of a massacre. By that logic anybody with testosterone is likely to shoot up a school. Behavior isn't a cause of shootings, being a sociopath isn't learnt :/
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I never said that. Refer to the bottom of [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/112495932/0/0/0]this post[/url].
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Edited by Tori baybee: 4/1/2015 8:47:37 AMIt looks like you specifically said aggression increases the likelihood of a massacre lol, which is questionable. The shooters at columbine and sandy hook were described as docile and particularly antisocial people Either way that doesn't matter though because same human beings are capable of handling such emotions.
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[quote]It looks like you specifically said aggression increases the likelihood of a massacre lol, which is questionable.[/quote]Read the rest of the post.
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[quote]I said it probably increases the risk of it happening given the context. The idea being that if someone's level of aggression is high, when coupled with other circumstances (such as being bullied at school), it may lead them to target/attack those things which caused them, a la shootings. This goes back to the other post I replied to where I explained how the overwhelming factor for engaging in mass shootings is revenge.[/quote] I read it all. I get what you're saying. But a normal human being can cope with frustration and anger. What pushes these people over the edge isn't the fact that they're more aggressive than the average person. Somebody in their situation with a decent mental state would simply commit suicide. What makes these people so lethal is the fact that they're batshit insane, they don't have the sense that we do. They're sociopaths.
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Recent studies actually suggest the frustration that comes with the difficulty of a game causes more aggression than the violence in it. ( [url=http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/violent-video-games-dont-make-you-aggressive--difficult-games-do-says-new-study-9246838.html]see here[/url] ) Also, playing Co-op, even in violent games, reduces aggressiveness. ( [url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2198749/Co-operative-games--violent-ones--lead-people-MORE-friendly-say-twin-studies.html]see here[/url] )
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[url=http://psp.sagepub.com/content/40/5/578]Disputed by a major meta analysis of 98 individual studies which establishes a causal link.[/url]
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Interesting. I suppose I can't really say " more recent" as [url=http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jcom.12129/full#]this study[/url] was published only a month later. I guess we should just agree to disagree. ¯\_(シ)_/¯
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This does not apply to a normal person who can distinguish fantasy from reality
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Exactly! I don't think a person would just start killing people or committing violent acts just from playing this game.
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ok I just want to say: I play video games where I chop the heads off of stormtroopers with badass lightsabers, seen blood splattered against the screen when you shot gun a monster in the guts, stomped Batman into The Underworld with my -blam!-ing foot and yet I have never started a fight at school, never got detention, expulsion, suspension, I respect and love my family, I have many friends, never had the THOUGHT of shooting up a school or movie theatre! Now, tell me I'm wrong.
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I also have played those games LOL and I have been A GOOD LITTLE BOY
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do you know what game i'm talking about in the batman part? just curious
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Probably Arkham/city/asylum/origins
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nah injustice. your scorpion against batman. your grab batman and scorpion will stomp b-man to the underworld. quite graphic actually
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Oh, injustice. I have the ultimate edition. Yeah, the violence is quite graphic.
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I have the ultimate edition too. wait I thought you could get scorpion through the non-ultimate version?
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I think for the standard version it's DLC.
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some way you can right?
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Probably.
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Unless I'm mistaken, that study on violent video games was conducted in 2001. I hardly think opinions have remained unchanged on that subject in 14 years. Not to mention numerous other studies have been done since then, and none of them conclusively prove that violent video games increase aggression
