Edit: OP, this isn't directed at you btw. It doesn't matter what anybody says about that weapon or the people that use it. It's a great weapon. Call it a crutch. Idgaf. If you think it's that bad I'll bust out the Cockmoon and shoot you right in the face. Then they'll cry about that. I'm honestly surprised I don't see all the posts where people cry about Gjallarhorn I'm Crucible. Quick question. Have any of cry babies thought for a moment that the person using the Thorn might not have a decent primary weapon to use in Crucible? No? Didn't think so. So many forum users just spew this shit and cry about getting owned by a decent weapon. I avidly use the Thorn. 9/10 times I'll kill you before the poison kicks in. The rare chance it does kill you its most likely cuz I got killed before I could get the last shot in. I love the way it feels. The sight is amazing in my opinion which is a big thing for some people. I ADS all the time unless I'm being bum rushed.