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3/20/2015 2:39:47 PM
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Lot of foolish folks in here.
The VT60 the OP has was the best tv made in 2013 and cost a few thousand bucks. In terms of picture quality there isn't anything available today that's much if any better, aside from crazy expensive OLEDs.
It's not like he's complaining that he can't see colors on his 1947 RCA vis-o-lux.
I also have burn in on a 2013 panasonic plasma. I quit playing Destiny because of it. I've been gaming on plasmas for at least 6 years now and I've never had a problem. I put around 100 hours into Destiny over the course of a few months and rarely played more than 2 hours at a time. Destiny is definitely unique, as I can STILL faintly see the HUD and I haven't so much as turned the game on in two months.
How hard would it be to have a simple HUD transparency slider? And to hide the HUD when you're not in combat?
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You do have a slider, it's called the brightness control on your television.
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Why should I have to dim my tv and make the picture quality worse every time I want to play this one game when no other games, including previous bungie games, have given me trouble? I'm not even sure that would help since I don't run my tv in "torch mode" like they do in stores to attract eyeballs. It is calibrated for accuracy and is not running at full brightness. The HUD is annoying, and given the option I would make it more transparent even if I was on a LCD tv. Aside from transparency, the hud should just be hidden when not in combat. Why do I need to see that my super is ready when I'm farming mats and haven't fired a shot in 10 minutes? After I started noticing burn-in, and before I quit, I would start wasting supers as soon as I got them to keep that yellow bar from being displayed constantly.
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So you don't get burn in's obviously.
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My question was essentially "Why should I have to dim my tv to prevent burn in?" "So you don't get burn in" is not an answer. Destiny is a product that Bungie presumably wants me to continue to spend time and money on. Without burn-in mitigation on THEIR end, I ain't playin or payin for shit. And judging by this thread, I'm not alone.
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Dude are you serious or what? Bungie didn't make the tv you bought, they made the game. Anyone who knows anything about these sets knows bright colors, too much going on, too many pixels on the screen has the potential to cause a burn in effect if your brightness is too high.
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Then why don't I have this problem with any other game?? Before this tv I had an older and crappier plasma where I played hundreds of hours of Halo, Call of Duty, Skryim, etc and never had burn in. The hud in this game is excessively bright and excessively opaque. You have no idea what causes burn in. The only thing that causes burn in is bright, STATIC, images. "too much going on" - this is the opposite of what causes burn in. A tv showing pure static (aka lots of stuff going on) will never have burn in. In fact some people use static to fix burn in. "too many pixels on the screen" - gibberish. Resolution has nothing to do with burn in Like I said before, my brightness is not too high. There is no reason a game that I played 2 hrs a day or less should burn in, when other games I played 3-4 hrs a day did no damage whatsoever. Why are you arguing against this? Does it hurt you to have the option to make the HUD transparent? Or to turn off the HUD when not in combat? If you don't want to use it, don't.
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Thank you brother. It's nice to have people on the forum that understand picture quality. Reading your post was like you were reading my mind. That's exactly why I purchased the TV in 2013. Quality blacks and a relatively great price. Why would I want or allow a game to ruin my prized possession? I had to quit the first game I have been addicted to in years to protect my TV. Even reading that sentence sounds ridiculous that I can't play a particular game because the game offers no settings to allow it to play nice with my TV. Thing about Plasmas is that when they are good, they are good for a long time. Ask anyone who owns one of the last two years of the pioneer Plasmas how their TV stacks up today. And you are 100% right, regardless of calibration, contrast levels, brightness, screen wipes, etc. , tell me about any other game right now that leaves such deep Image retention that it stays with you for several months. Other games may leave some retention but you watch something else and it goes away. Not Destiny. On the fact that the damage the game causes is worse then any other game, I don't get how they didnt run to fix this immediately even after it was brought up in the BETA. I think it's because they think that we as consumers are dopes and don't notice what the game is doing to our TVs. This thread should be a wake up call to them but not one of the bungie folks have dared to even put out an explanation tho their patrons on when or if this will ever get fixed. Newsflash, intelligent consumers have long memories.
