Here are the cold hard facts, shotguns take very little skill to use and are now beginning to outweigh even the best exotics on the game on most maps. People are overusing them and using their overpowered up close combat advantage to almost completely overrun the use of skilled weapons such as snipers, scout rifles, and pulse rifles (you know things that require head shots and the actual use of aiming).
In a game with already major issues in pvp with unbalanced and overpowered abilities such as supers, shoulder charges, a jump where you literally just disappear, and horribly unskilled blade dancer supers (mash right bumper who hoo), do we really need shotguns to also be such a powerful weapon to the point where almost everyone is now using them ?! Perhaps if there were more maps with an open playing style to help take away this shotgun whoring advantage, skilled players using skilled weapons could actually be able to showcase their skill set to stop these shotgun users long before the distance is closed, but there are not !
Most maps are defined by tight corners, up close combat, very few sniping vantage points, and ways for shotgun users to flank you within a seconds notice, and once they are on you with a decent shotgun good luck trying to stop them without the use of a super!
Please bungie help bring balance back into the pvp much like the halo days, where kids attempting this with shotguns would easily be outplayed by skilled players using battle rifles, snipers, dmr's etc. , stop allowing such an unskilled weapon dictate how 80 % of the maps and games are now played, are there not enough up close advantages already ? (Supers, shoulder charges, overpowered grenades of some classes) ?
Shotguns are ruining the game style of skilled players who actually use headshots and space to control the success of their matches to the point where they are being forced to carry a shotgun also in fear of the entire other team running around with them which seems to happen more and more each day...save us from the shotgun madness bungie, before more and more people seeking balance while using actual skilled weapons get tired of this...
I'll leave you with this, shotgun whores should not be able to control the style of play on each map, they should not be constantly rewarded for such an unskilled weapon which seems to constantly be outplaying skilled weapons now more and more in mid and close ranged engagements, please bring the power back to the skilled weapons, the headshots, and the effectiveness of keeping enemies at a distance !!!!
PVP doesn't need any more up close power advantages, our game is being ruined by unskilled basement trolls running around sliding with overpowered, overused shotguns !!! Skill should shine in the form of headshots and accuracy, not who can run up and slide and hurry up and slam down the trigger button faster regardless of where they are aiming on the body ! Make it stop BUNGIE !! (How about some bigger sized maps, with less who comes around which corner first type of play, and allowing shotguns to be used as they should be at extremely close range, enough of these mid range effects we are now seeing. Perhaps even less special ammo could end up being part of the solution on these smaller maps)
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4 RepliesBAN SHOTGUNS!!! I can't counter them so I made this post!!
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Peepul This Post Is From March
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As much as I hate shotguns, most of this is subjective due to the fact that you will always remember when a shotgun kills you as oppose to a pulse rifle or sniper etc.. On a side note you will find that the people using shotguns arnt kids, they are teens or guys in there early 20's using cheap tactics to win. It happened in battlefield and cod and destiny is no different only the skill gap is larger.
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I actually think the New set up has made PvP alot better,not as many shotguns as there was before,just now your getting snipped with pulse rifles lol
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I usually use shotguns but they aren't ideal for every map. Shotguns are not too op in crucible because you have to be point blank to get killed in one shot unless its the felwinter. Stop complaining and use a shotgun yourself.
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Here's a tip, don't run up to the shotgun user thinking thinking that your melee is going to him/her down. If they are sliding, then throw a grenade at your feet, allowing you to back up and perhaps kill the shotgun user.
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3 RepliesSounds like you camp with long range weapons. If someone gets close enough to kill you with a shotgun, YOU let them too close. Hand Cannons are way worse than shotguns. Stop trying to change how other people play. They already took away a bunch of shotgun ammo. Quit crying.
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So stay at medium range and watch your radar? Be careful around corners, and maybe just equip a shotgun of your own when you have to go in tight spaces? Shotguns are incredibly strong but they can be countered by smart play.
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Honestly not hard at all to combat a shotgun... Jump and back pedal? A fusion rifle maybe? If you have so much skill and ability to head shot then you should kill someone with a shotgun before they can even get close to you, now that people like you have complained the crucible is full of campers due to the lack of special ammo Congrats
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You're moms vagina cheese ruined crucible
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3 RepliesEdited by Ebil Donut: 5/1/2015 9:51:46 PMU want a real solution? [b]ASK FOR BIGGER MAPS!!!!![/b] Shotguns are [b]supposed[/b] to do alot if damage close range. Thats the whole point. Its the lack of space that makes shotguns so dominant. Most maps are[b]small or medium and ALL of those small maps are Close quarters. [/b] Nut up and shut up, meg. Edit 1: i dont know about everyone else, but i get killed by shotguns within 10 ft at [b]most.[/b]. I have rarely been killed by felwinters lie or universal remote both shotguns have the send it perk.
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theres no point in complaining, if you nerf shotguns you ruin everyones enjoyment. might as well join the crowd instead of being that odd man no one likes
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2 Replieslol,your complaining that you can't sniper because shotguns are killing you? Do you not see them coming......
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Just gonna be honest I know this isnt cod But in mw2 when one person pulled out noob tubes EVERYONE DID So if u cant beatem joinem(i love me some shotties btw secret handshake ftw)
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Stop bitching
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It is more than likely the ebb & flow of the community and the style they are playing. Currently the maps that are in heavier rotation are somewhat small. This promotes a run and gun scenario that caters to shotguns. An easier way to defend against this is to better equip your load out, knowing what you're up against. Get a scout rifle or pulse rifle that allow your radar to remain up when you ADS. Fang of ir Yurt comes to mind. Or hunter exotic helm. In your secondary slot its up to you. Fusion, sniper, even shotgun for the ones who run up on you. If you want to snipe find one with a perk that allows for quick ADS. Work the edges of the encounters. Watch your map more than normal. Try to not sprint. Like I said, work the edges of the conflicts rather than right in the middle. At this distance, a scout rifle can become deadly, picking people off and remaining out of their sight lines. You can also find scout rifles with explosive rounds which can help get you kills in clustered areas. Be creative... Check your grenades. Use one that will keep players at a distance rather that killing them. Hope this helps :)
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5 RepliesSounds like you're not very good at PvP. Don't get mad. Get a shotgun instead :)
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If you were so skilled you would grab a shotgun and shoot back, instead you're here moaning and crying like a -blam!-ing bitch. Grow a set and pull your skirt back up, you pussy.
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wall of text so tldr but [spoiler]i hate shotguns too[/spoiler]
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3 RepliesI saw zero facts that could ever be considered cold hard sir. We are all now dumber for having listened to you. I award you no point, and may god have mercy on your soul
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"Cold Hard Facts" >displays opinions
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I let me nephew who is 9 play for the first time ever, put a shotgun on the character and he started wrecking, not even aiming just running up to people and 1 shooting them. Just allow people to keep using shotguns, equip one yourself Look what bungie did they see no one uses pulse rifles so they buffed them They see everyone using shotguns they will be nerfed. Equiped one yourself help nerf it
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1 ReplyI don't have a problem with how strong the shotguns are. They are supposed to be strong up close. Just like snipers are supposed to be strong at a distance and fusion rifles at mid range. My problem comes from the overabundance of the special ammo. There is so much of it that, ironically, there is little reason to run with your PRIMARY weapon. How about this: Remove special ammo from crucible all together BUT everyone starts out the match with max ammo for their special weapon. Since there is no way to replenish the special ammo, now it becomes a strategic game of "when do I use it". Do you go in shotguns blazing at the start of the match to try and give your team an early lead? Or do you save the ammo just in case your team is struggling to win and you need it to pull a clutch victory? It's this kind of thought process that makes coming up with tactics in multiplayer games fun and rewarding. What are your thoughts on this idea?
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3 RepliesYou know a simple solution is just keep your distance right? Don't rush into things blindly. And the whole point of a shotgun is to kill in one hit, not 3 or 4
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What do you think would happen with a shotgun at close range?
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9 RepliesLMFAO. WHAAAAAAAA