Ok Deej I know you maybe busy but for God's sake can we hear something about people's concern about auto rifles.
I know bungie wanted the player base to have more diversity of weapons but hear me out when I say that the nerf wasn't necessary.
What bungie did with pulse rifles was needed, and now more people use them but the reason people are complaining is the damage nerf.
If we can just please get your awareness to this issue because auto rifles feel so useless. And not to mention that God awful excuse for an exotic like necrochasm why did certain auto rifles even need the nerf.
There has to be a change and it needs to be done.
Don't force people to play either other weapons simply because they prefer auto rifles.
Bring the bad weapons up to par with them.
EDIT: I'm relieved that it's not just me who feels this way about balance in game.
Keep it up and let's discuss more ideas for balancing weapons on this game because it does have potential.
EDIT: the feedback from people is great
Keep it going
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They've done this since day one! :( rather than improve the inferior weapons they nerf the good ones till they're so bad they're no longer viable! 1 of the many reasons I quit! Till how but guessing that will last 1 week like TDB & after that it's bye bye Bungivision! even if destiny 2 is the game promised I can't trust their cough.. Development decisions! To not destroy what they've already gotten right!
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For God sakes please I'm tired of using hard light as a paper weight the weapon was low tier as is but hey let's Neff it to the point where it shoots airsoft pellets. Overall buff all auto rifles so they can compete with pulse. And for everyone saying use them mid to close range, you can close the gap on someone very fast and shotgun them. Auto rifles need help.
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And here's the thing with auto rifles, I think most people use them because they are more forgiving than other weapons. You can just hold the trigger down if you miss with the first shot and adjust the spray of bullets until you acquire your target. With a scout rifle or pulse rifle, you can't do that. If you miss, you're much more fücked than you would be if you missed with an auto rifle. Furthermore, I think most players are casual players, not console FPS gods that have laser eyesight target acquisition and hummingbird twitch reflexes. When you nerf the casual player's weapon, you add an artificial difficulty for the the majority of your player base that makes the whole experience less fun and more frustrating. Now, I'm so glad that for the 15% of players time spent in pvp, they now feel things are more balanced. But, their balance should fück up our pve experience! I hope bungie addresses this in the Destiny franchises because it's a great concept and I hope to play this franchise for years to come.
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David Dague is not in a position to do anything other than report what we say to the Bungie higher ups. Luke Smith - PVE Lars Bakken - PVP Jason Jones - The boss If it's PVE then look at Luke. If it's PVP look towards Lars. If it's business, like removing activities from the game, look at Jason Jones.
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36 RepliesEdited by Z4KU II: 3/17/2015 8:11:03 AM"waah, I think my point is valid 'cuz FEELZ! despite bungie showing factual numbers justifying the NERF!! waah!!" thats what you auto-rifle-nerf people sound like to me, therefore, its how you actually factually sound like, according to you. Im diversified in weaponry and I LOVE the rebalance! AR's operate MUCH more distinctly from the other weapon types, not leaving a one-sive fits all approach. THATS the real problem there, you people just want a single gun to use for every single situation. admit it, you just want an OP gun. well, YOUR inflexibility will be your own misfortune, not mine. ima go haz fun with my well-balanced array of weaponry on all 3 class gaurdians, get gud scrub! P.S. also, Deej doesnt reply to these silly posts because they have nothing to say. Bungie studied the numbers, they know what they're doing, and DeeJ is'nt autonomous in his authority; he can only say what he has been aproved to say.
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1 ReplyEach gun and each class of gun ALL should have a Time to Kill within .1 MAX .2 of each other. That way they are all "equal" I loved my auto rifles. Now I pulse rifle everything. Hand canons are still deadly. Pulse rifles are deadly. Scout rifles are the old pulse rifle. Shotguns deadly. Fusions still deadly. Auto rifles are bad now
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I agree, Dee j respond to the masses
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1 ReplyDeej is a punk and he hates the elderly.
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I hardly touch my autos now days. Could Do more damage with a water pistol in the rain
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No.he doesn't have time to explain why he doesn't have time to explain. Now take your suros(after its 19 percent nerf.go see YouTube videos) and dismantle it for 2 or 3 shards.
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1 ReplyEdited by XBoxOMega: 3/17/2015 1:53:52 AMBecause DeeJ doesn't give two f@cks on what we say. Do you see him posting a reply like this?. DeeJ: "thank you for your concern about Auto Rifles, I understand a lot of people aren't happy with the auto rifle nerf. I will bring this notion to the Dev team in the next meeting. Thank you."
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Dj doesn't respond to shit. He's told what to say and his opinion goes as far as how to articulate their words into a witty article.
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2 RepliesThey don't care about us anymore
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Edited by RandyMarsh: 3/18/2015 12:50:10 AMhes not allowed and ti was his pvp team that caused the nerf. they did one week of crucible with TLL and BNG and they were all terrible falling in the 75th percentile.
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2 RepliesARs are still functional, just not your stable cornflakes any longer.
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1 ReplyEdited by NilSatisSteel: 3/18/2015 12:54:17 PMBungie have got me hook line and sinker with this as I never used any primary other than auto rifles! Now since the NERF I have used scout, plus and hand cannons! Hand cannon is now my go to weapon. This would have never of happened if it wasn't for the nerf.
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Vanquisher 8 is your friend
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3 RepliesKeep the current damage drop off nerf from last patch. 2nd, reduce the current damage nerf by half of what was implemented. Problem solved.
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6 RepliesEdited by illmatic_nga: 3/18/2015 12:24:32 PMIt is pretty annoying. Pulse rifles, handcannons, and scout rifles are all valid options now. Auto rifles not so much. The ttk on an auto rifles doesn't match up with the other weapon types. I could get the jump on someone and before their shield is even down they've hit me twice with thorn, hawkmoon, red death, etc. and I die.I'm glad they made pulse rifles useful, but I don't think it should have been at the expense of auto rifles.
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Agreed. I don't even use SUROS Regime anymore. It use to be the best now it's worthless.
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It was only a 2.5% reduction in damage. I haven't even noticed it being different since then
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My grim citizen still kicks ass..