1. Everyone will have it!!!
I know you want to think these forums represent the majority of the Destiny community, but they simply don't. Millions of people don't use these forums. Millions of people don't check Xur, millions of people don't play on the weekends. Millions of people don't have the strange coins. Even after Ice Breaker was sold 3 times, people still don't have it. You still see threads about people having missed it or not having enough coins for it. Guaranteed if Xur sells Ghorn, the next week people will still be asking for it. So to think that every single Guardian will be rocking Gjallarhorns if it goes on sale is not good logic.
2. It'll break the game!!!!
Nope. I play on many strikes where all 3 of us have a Gjallarhorn and guess what? The game doesn't break. Sure, bosses are downed about 30% quicker, all it does it make an already easy task slightly easier. - not exactly game breaking since even ROC strikes aren't particularly challenging. Also, this requires all 3 people to have a Gjallarhorn (see point 1) and have full Gjallarhorn ammo (doesn't always happen) or possess synths (doesn't always happen) and be willing to use them (doesn't always happen). Also, there will always be people who want to equip other exotics.
3. If everyone has one, Bungie will nerf it!
What are they waiting for? LOADS of people own Gjalarhorn. Certainly, a majority of my friends have it. Many of the strikes I'm in (with mates) contain 3 Gjallarhorns. Videos of people destroying Atheon in 15 seconds with 6 Gjallarhorns have been around for months (I think even Bungie posted one). And there's many videos of people solo-ing Crota with a Gjallarhorn (here's mine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4n_KULs5fg&sns=em ). What are Bungie waiting for? They know how exactly powerful it is, many people already use it to make the game easier, they've had many opportunities to nerf it ... but they haven't. I hardly see why they'd suddenly get the nerf-hammer if Xur sold it and the percentage of Gjallarhorn owners jumps up by 15-20%
4. I don't want Xur to sell it because it will feel so much better when I finally see it drop!
Then don't buy it, simple.
5. I won't be a special snowflake
Shut up
6. People should earn their Gjallarhorn
The word earn means: to gain deservedly in return for one's behaviour or achievements.
Receiving something by RNG is the antithesis of earning because contribution to any activity is not taken into account (or even needed), nor is your skill level a factor of what you receive. Basically you can suck terribly or not even be at your controller get a Gjallarhorn. Being granted something at random is not earning, it is the complete opposite. Technically it takes two weekly heroic strikes to have enough coins to get an exotic of Xur where as getting a weapon at random requires you to be present at only one activity.
7. But ... I like being special
You are already special, in your heart, for many reasons, and a digital gun isn't one of them.
Edit. Reason 8. If Xur sells it I/many players would stop playing.
This is frightening because if you are saying that you're being led along solely by a carrot on a stick, that makes you an ass. If Gjallarhorn is an artificial way to pad your Destiny experience, that's sad. If you think that starving the player base is a good method of player retention, please don't become a game developer. The simple truth is that if something is fun, you'll do it. I played many years of Halo (and other games) because they were enjoyable activities, without the chance of that random loot. Also, saying you'll quit if you finally get that weapon you want is puzzling logic. If you finally get that weapon you want, wouldn't you want to ... enjoy using it? And play more? And if you collect every exotic, there's plenty of other goals to chase, I don't even have to name them.
Edit: Reason 9. Xur will NEVER sell Gjallarhorn again, it's confirmed to be off his loot table.
I gather you get this I information from that MEGAMAN chap. The same chap who has also written:
[i]-Xur's list of items of sale can be changed in real time, not just via patches.
-Bungie manually controls when he appears, where he appears, etc. Therefore, they can do things like prevent the originally scheduled Xur from appearing and replace him with an different Xur prepared in case of emergency.
-I have already seen Xur appear with a different list of items than what originally appeared in my data. When I checked that Xur's list of items, they were all identical to what ended up going on sale that week. The next week, he reverted to his original scheduled list. Therefore, I've concluded that Bungie prepared a different Xur for that one particular week.
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So no, it's impossible to say Xur will never sell Gjallarhorn with absolutely assuredness.
ALSO XUR IS SELLING GJALLARHORN THIS SEXOND SO YOU'RE EXTRA WRONG!
Ps. I own 3 maxed Gjallarhorns and I would love Xur to sell it.
Post post script: in regards to bosses being downed quicker ... how is that a bad thing? Does anyone out there really think "gee that strike-boss died too quickly, I would have loved to have shot at it for another 7 minutes. Bullet sponges are where the fun is at."?
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Xur [b]should[/b] sell gjallarhorn. Destroy that
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Have a bump good sir.
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Yeah man you totally destroyed those arguments..lol
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Made a post recently and was directed to yours. The fact that many of our ideas match up well further prove our point. https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/115152765/0/0
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Yor argument is invalid for this reasons 1.-8 out of 10 people that i play destiny with have 1-3 gjallarhorn. 2.- being.a sitiational gun wont be nerf just because you finished a strike 3 min faster.. 3.- in pvp is better to use the truth or hoc than gjallarhorn so it wont be nerf either. Every day someone who didnt have it get it and still hasnt been nerf so stop posting dumb thing..
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Hahaha this is a truly beautiful post. Well written, articulate, concise, and the arguments are sound. [quote]"I want to be a special snowflake" Shut up[/quote] XD hilarious!
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Best post I've seen in a while! Explains it all
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Dapper Gentlemen
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Yas ^^^^^
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Bump! Why can't everyone see these reasons?
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Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
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Its a massive steamer folks=maximus Trollus.
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Well said. Take a seat
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Kudos.
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Hallelujah! Somebody else on these forums that actually has a brain and common sense! This is the most refreshing post I've read in a looooooooong time! Thank-you sir!
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Great post .
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yeah i really liked all the solid proof
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Edited by conersigerson67: 4/12/2015 6:28:00 AMYeah quite a lot of people have it tbh, if I'm in a random raid group of experienced players, there's roughly 4 gallys It's more common than people think I've done 1000 hours and 3 have dropped, seems fair but 3 truths have dropped aswell, so your chances of getting it are same chances of getting the truth( if you know what I mean ) , just a shame that some people just can't get it you know. Like I have never dropped hawk moon, I guess that's just the gun I can't get Edit: another thing is, I've got to the point like a lot of other people, where there's nothing to do, I realise I don't use enough of my other exotics, like I have every other one but I don't use them that much because I'm constantly using the gally, so I'm going to stop using it (unless raid boss) and start using my other awesome exotics, I mean I've nearly caught them all so why quit? Just enjoy your weapons, like red death and bad juju are googood strike guns, mida is extremely underated in my opinion, thunder lord is too good but people don't use it because ghorn spot
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You have AIDS
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You talk to much
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I am 100% with you. I've posted many comments on this forum defending the same idea. You took the time to give it a more precise approach. I have been running Crota's End raid w/ many lvl 32 players and lots of them do not have the Gjallarhorn (just like me). I've come across folks who have 5 of them. The problem is the RNG system (sucks!). Icebreaker is one of the best weapons in the game and XUR sold it 3 times already this year (from my account). I do not see complains of impact in the game. That is total nonsense! I congratulate those lucky ones who have the Gjallarhorn. I keep on dreaming on getting mine but Bungie it is more than time for you to allow XUR to sell it again. Why not make this a pre-House of Wolves selling celebration? Best regards to all in the forum. I hope the idea will be taken. Keep the fight in the game. Peace everywhere else.
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100% agree
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Thank you sensei.