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Edited by Shadow Artiste:
8/14/2015 9:04:21 AM
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Watch Me Destroy the Arguments Against Xur Selling Gjallarhorn
1. Everyone will have it!!!
I know you want to think these forums represent the majority of the Destiny community, but they simply don't. Millions of people don't use these forums. Millions of people don't check Xur, millions of people don't play on the weekends. Millions of people don't have the strange coins. Even after Ice Breaker was sold 3 times, people still don't have it. You still see threads about people having missed it or not having enough coins for it. Guaranteed if Xur sells Ghorn, the next week people will still be asking for it. So to think that every single Guardian will be rocking Gjallarhorns if it goes on sale is not good logic.
2. It'll break the game!!!!
Nope. I play on many strikes where all 3 of us have a Gjallarhorn and guess what? The game doesn't break. Sure, bosses are downed about 30% quicker, all it does it make an already easy task slightly easier. - not exactly game breaking since even ROC strikes aren't particularly challenging. Also, this requires all 3 people to have a Gjallarhorn (see point 1) and have full Gjallarhorn ammo (doesn't always happen) or possess synths (doesn't always happen) and be willing to use them (doesn't always happen). Also, there will always be people who want to equip other exotics.
3. If everyone has one, Bungie will nerf it!
What are they waiting for? LOADS of people own Gjalarhorn. Certainly, a majority of my friends have it. Many of the strikes I'm in (with mates) contain 3 Gjallarhorns. Videos of people destroying Atheon in 15 seconds with 6 Gjallarhorns have been around for months (I think even Bungie posted one). And there's many videos of people solo-ing Crota with a Gjallarhorn (here's mine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4n_KULs5fg&sns=em ). What are Bungie waiting for? They know how exactly powerful it is, many people already use it to make the game easier, they've had many opportunities to nerf it ... but they haven't. I hardly see why they'd suddenly get the nerf-hammer if Xur sold it and the percentage of Gjallarhorn owners jumps up by 15-20%
4. I don't want Xur to sell it because it will feel so much better when I finally see it drop!
Then don't buy it, simple.
5. I won't be a special snowflake
Shut up
6. People should earn their Gjallarhorn
The word earn means: to gain deservedly in return for one's behaviour or achievements.
Receiving something by RNG is the antithesis of earning because contribution to any activity is not taken into account (or even needed), nor is your skill level a factor of what you receive. Basically you can suck terribly or not even be at your controller get a Gjallarhorn. Being granted something at random is not earning, it is the complete opposite. Technically it takes two weekly heroic strikes to have enough coins to get an exotic of Xur where as getting a weapon at random requires you to be present at only one activity.
7. But ... I like being special
You are already special, in your heart, for many reasons, and a digital gun isn't one of them.
Edit. Reason 8. If Xur sells it I/many players would stop playing.
This is frightening because if you are saying that you're being led along solely by a carrot on a stick, that makes you an ass. If Gjallarhorn is an artificial way to pad your Destiny experience, that's sad. If you think that starving the player base is a good method of player retention, please don't become a game developer. The simple truth is that if something is fun, you'll do it. I played many years of Halo (and other games) because they were enjoyable activities, without the chance of that random loot. Also, saying you'll quit if you finally get that weapon you want is puzzling logic. If you finally get that weapon you want, wouldn't you want to ... enjoy using it? And play more? And if you collect every exotic, there's plenty of other goals to chase, I don't even have to name them.
Edit: Reason 9. Xur will NEVER sell Gjallarhorn again, it's confirmed to be off his loot table.
I gather you get this I information from that MEGAMAN chap. The same chap who has also written:
[i]-Xur's list of items of sale can be changed in real time, not just via patches.
-Bungie manually controls when he appears, where he appears, etc. Therefore, they can do things like prevent the originally scheduled Xur from appearing and replace him with an different Xur prepared in case of emergency.
-I have already seen Xur appear with a different list of items than what originally appeared in my data. When I checked that Xur's list of items, they were all identical to what ended up going on sale that week. The next week, he reverted to his original scheduled list. Therefore, I've concluded that Bungie prepared a different Xur for that one particular week.
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So no, it's impossible to say Xur will never sell Gjallarhorn with absolutely assuredness.
ALSO XUR IS SELLING GJALLARHORN THIS SEXOND SO YOU'RE EXTRA WRONG!
Ps. I own 3 maxed Gjallarhorns and I would love Xur to sell it.
Post post script: in regards to bosses being downed quicker ... how is that a bad thing? Does anyone out there really think "gee that strike-boss died too quickly, I would have loved to have shot at it for another 7 minutes. Bullet sponges are where the fun is at."?
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It's no longer viable. I win
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No use now :(
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Edited by El Watermelon: 9/10/2015 9:17:27 PM[quote]1. Everyone will have it!!! I know you want to think these forums represent the majority of the Destiny community, but they simply don't. Millions of people don't use these forums. Millions of people don't check Xur, millions of people don't play on the weekends. Millions of people don't have the strange coins. Even after Ice Breaker was sold 3 times, people still don't have it. You still see threads about people having missed it or not having enough coins for it. Guaranteed if Xur sells Ghorn, the next week people will still be asking for it. So to think that every single Guardian will be rocking Gjallarhorns if it goes on sale is not good logic. 2. It'll break the game!!!! Nope. I play on many strikes where all 3 of us have a Gjallarhorn and guess what? The game doesn't break. Sure, bosses are downed about 30% quicker, all it does it make an already easy task slightly easier. - not exactly game breaking since even ROC strikes aren't particularly challenging. Also, this requires all 3 people to have a Gjallarhorn (see point 1) and have full Gjallarhorn ammo (doesn't always happen) or possess synths (doesn't always happen) and be willing to use them (doesn't always happen). Also, there will always be people who want to equip other exotics. 3. If everyone has one, Bungie will nerf it! What are they waiting for? LOADS of people own Gjalarhorn. Certainly, a majority of my friends have it. Many of the strikes I'm in (with mates) contain 3 Gjallarhorns. Videos of people destroying Atheon in 15 seconds with 6 Gjallarhorns have been around for months (I think even Bungie posted one). And there's many videos of people solo-ing Crota with a Gjallarhorn (here's mine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4n_KULs5fg&sns=em ). What are Bungie waiting for? They know how exactly powerful it is, many people already use it to make the game easier, they've had many opportunities to nerf it ... but they haven't. I hardly see why they'd suddenly get the nerf-hammer if Xur sold it and the percentage of Gjallarhorn owners jumps up by 15-20% 4. I don't want Xur to sell it because it will feel so much better when I finally see it drop! Then don't buy it, simple. 5. I won't be a special snowflake Shut up 6. People should earn their Gjallarhorn The word earn means: to gain deservedly in return for one's behaviour or achievements. Receiving something by RNG is the antithesis of earning because contribution to any activity is not taken into account (or even needed), nor is your skill level a factor of what you receive. Basically you can suck terribly or not even be at your controller get a Gjallarhorn. Being granted something at random is not earning, it is the complete opposite. Technically it takes two weekly heroic strikes to have enough coins to get an exotic of Xur where as getting a weapon at random requires you to be present at only one activity. 7. But ... I like being special You are already special, in your heart, for many reasons, and a digital gun isn't one of them. Edit. Reason 8. If Xur sells it I/many players would stop playing. This is frightening because if you are saying that you're being led along solely by a carrot on a stick, that makes you an ass. If Gjallarhorn is an artificial way to pad your Destiny experience, that's sad. If you think that starving the player base is a good method of player retention, please don't become a game developer. The simple truth is that if something is fun, you'll do it. I played many years of Halo (and other games) because they were enjoyable activities, without the chance of that random loot. Also, saying you'll quit if you finally get that weapon you want is puzzling logic. If you finally get that weapon you want, wouldn't you want to ... enjoy using it? And play more? And if you collect every exotic, there's plenty of other goals to chase, I don't even have to name them. Edit: Reason 9. Xur will NEVER sell Gjallarhorn again, it's confirmed to be off his loot table. I gather you get this I information from that MEGAMAN chap. The same chap who has also written: [i]-Xur's list of items of sale can be changed in real time, not just via patches. -Bungie manually controls when he appears, where he appears, etc. Therefore, they can do things like prevent the originally scheduled Xur from appearing and replace him with an different Xur prepared in case of emergency. -I have already seen Xur appear with a different list of items than what originally appeared in my data. When I checked that Xur's list of items, they were all identical to what ended up going on sale that week. The next week, he reverted to his original scheduled list. Therefore, I've concluded that Bungie prepared a different Xur for that one particular week. [/i] So no, it's impossible to say Xur will never sell Gjallarhorn with absolutely assuredness. ALSO XUR IS SELLING GJALLARHORN THIS SEXOND SO YOU'RE EXTRA WRONG! Ps. I own 3 maxed Gjallarhorns and I would love Xur to sell it. Post post script: in regards to bosses being downed quicker ... how is that a bad thing? Does anyone out there really think "gee that strike-boss died too quickly, I would have loved to have shot at it for another 7 minutes. Bullet sponges are where the fun is at."?[/quote] This man needs to be in office.
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Hocus pocus come back to lifeus
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Arguments = Destroyed
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3 RepliesBump.
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[url]https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/146541702/0/0[/url] LET IT BE KNOWN I'll be taking followers through trials all weekend @ [url]www.twitch.tv/exrav3n[/url]
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I love number 5. So elegantly simple.
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Well put
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Good post but a couple things. Dragon strikes are the new hardest strike. It's common knowledge that Gjally IS being nerfed. Great post my man! GREAT POST!!!!
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Well said!!!
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Eyes popped, mind blown, *clap* *clap*. Cheers man.
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Too bad I can't like this post more than once!
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Edited by Cankle J: 8/14/2015 3:23:59 PMWell said. I usually respond the the "earn it or xurn it" argument with this [url=]https://instagram.com/p/2pz1H_ub-r/[/url]
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The real MVP. /applaud
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7 RepliesI agree with this post almost completely. However, this news doesn't affect me because I deleted Destiny months ago. A rocket launcher that will be capped in 3 weeks isn't worth my time. Maybe if they sold it months ago, I would care. However, this day 1 player stopped chasing the carrot a loooong time ago. Bungie is just going to constantly move the goalposts every few months, so the game became irrelevant a while back imo
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[i]I am... Pleased. [/i]
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This guy is the mvp of this forum!
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#5 - slow clap
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This is the best post I've read in a while in the forums, bosses really are bullet sponges and have tons of minions trying to kill you, I rather down them in one go rather than three go's
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Necrobumped?
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Windbag Tl;dr
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5 RepliesGot to agree with the op i just got mine last week and i've been playing since september i've wanted it for ages and the only way i got it is by deleting a character and levelling back up got it my first nightfal I think the guns great but now i have it i'm not really fussed by it i use other guns i'm not one of those ppl tht say i only use gally. If xur sells it then fair play ppl should be able to get it and for everybody saying it should be rewarded u shouldnt be able to just buy it if u have sub par hours compaired to everybody else thts crap this whole game is based around rng if u think u were awarded it at 800 plus hours for being skilled thts far from true its just the rng worked in your favour at the end of the day its a game and ppl are still arguing over a virtual gun lets all just enjoy the game and stop being elitest with my guns better than yours
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May i comment about #3? Bungie is going to be nerfing the jellyhorn, but hey enjoy it in it's glory while you can right? :D
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The logic you present will make sense to mature individuals. We are dealing with a video game saturated with immature gamers.
