They won't add PVE because now they are 500 mil in debt, how could they afford a PVE side to Destiny, even Dinglebot got out and doesn't want his name associated with Destiny, what does that tell you. Bungie has had ample time to get the lead out but they haven't and I highly doubt they ever will. I mean they won't even talk about it, let alone admit they only vaguely hinted at any sort of RPG/PVE in Destiny, the only down side to that now is, they got the money from the PVE community and have no intention of building anything more into the PVE realm. They won't even acknowledge the fact that they gutted roughly 2 3rds of the game, nor will they admit they never had the intention of expanding the PVE world - it is a far cry from the trailers they released to get everyone to pre order the game. So the question is, will the PVE community suck it up and hand their cash over hand over fist? Or will the PVE community make a statement and not buy Destiny 2? That should be interesting, I know for me, I have no intention of buying anything more with the title destiny on it. I will check out the game play when and if it is ever released and IF it is what it should have been, then maybe - but I doubt it. I get on these forums to see what's happening from time to time and see if there's any progress and I see the exact same problems as when I stopped playing back in December. HoW was a slap in the face and I have a gut feeling so will the next DLC will be as well. I been playing Dying Light and that is by far way better than Destiny, also Shadows of Mordor, I am hoping that Tom Clancy's " Division" will be as well. There are many new games around the corner and destiny will have some serious competition to deal with. So we shall see...

i feel that if you only play one or the other mode in this game you are only getting half of the game- PVE/PVP do not need to be mutually exclusive IMO (before destiny i couldn't play FPS at all, and though i pretty much suck at it, its still SUPER FUN!!!) I like pve and the story and everything (and do it all of the time ) but playing against real peeps who own or get owned is eF'n great! also, in regards to PVE content; nightfall, weekly heroic , daily story....( i agree in advance with regards to repetitiveness- feel like there should be at least 20 more patrol mission and bounties and maybe a better rotation of them- also faction specific or secret bounties from faction would be neat -IDK/IMO

Who cares I have fun with both you little content junkie

You're dumb. Get out of this forum lol. If there wasn't Pve related in forums or the game. Raids wouldn't exist Bounties wouldn't exist Leveling your character with actual meaning and purpose to weapon wouldn't exist. Music that senders a channel of noise to the mind to be able to preserve as a aid to pve wouldn't exist. Patrolling wouldn't exist. Most of all... Your character wouldn't exist lol.

Let's see... PVE has daily missions, weekly, nightfall, patrols, raids, raids (I'll repeat that one because for people who don't play insane amounts of hours like you or me those are pretty big daunting deals to even get into) PVP has 4 (yes that's right only 4) game types at any one time, 5 if we're lucky. If I told someone who played COD how many game types we have to play they would laugh. If I told someone who played Halo how many game types we have they would laugh. Heck, it's a fun surprise to even see big map games show up like they did this weekend. It's taken almost half a year to get a game type without radar. Read that again. I'm sincerely tired of this vocal group here and other places (reddit for example) who are spouting utter nonsense about some PVP influence. If we're so influential then I am wondering what game you are playing. What do you people think a good online multiplayer shooter is? I mean seriously

My dick told your mom to her face "Fuc[b]k[/b] You!"

That's funny. I'm pretty sure this game is 90% PvE. Both sides have a right to give an intelligent voices of concern. But I agree Bungie doesn't have enough attention on PvE.

Agree. To start I don't hate PvP (Halo 2 FTW) and I don't want PvP content to be ignored or nerfed. If it was more like Halo 2 (CTF anyone) I wouldn't mind as much. I made my first post a day after they removed the day one feature for farming; to sell materials and get marks and reputation. I said it was the start of the turn of the tide to cater 99% of all development and enhancements towards PvP. Queue a few months later... All limited time events for PvP only. All new enhancements and alterations solely for PvP. The token shotgun damage increase still stinks and is useless when fighting a horde of high level enemies. I guess they thought the 100% damage increase would erase all the nerfs for guns we enjoy using in PvE. Isn't it amazing how we were told gun changes need to be made for both sides since they are tied together yet the shotgun change wasn't? I never saw one real post that asked or begged for gun nerfs in PvE. Why not return all the buffs Bungie removed for PvE? Answer: Bungie HATES the PvE community. Faction vendors can only be accessed by PvP currency since they removed the alternative way right before TDB. IB, you know the limited time event that is here at least once a month, is here almost on a weekly basis soon yet the Queens Event hasn't been seen since last September. Still no vault space, no way to access Faction Vendors without PvP, no Queens event, no hot swap weapon/armor D-pad, no removal of the ammo penalty, etc. When you take a step back you can see most if not all changes in Destiny since day one was to hurt or limit PvE. In conclusion, thank you Bungie for the BIG F-U! Well, back to fun grinding games like Borderlands, Diablo 3 and DC Universe Online. At least some game companies know how to treat loyal PvE players. This game is becoming more like Dragon's Lair than a open-world game. Sure, pretty looking games are fun for a little bit but then the same old routine becomes boring. Destiny definitely has that in spades...

Pretty much confirmed after the open house discussion. No Land Beyond... made for run & gun, quick scope, headshot-machine. Only really serves a purpose in PvP as it's nigh-useless in PvE. So, to recap; two new Exotic weapons added with "The Dark Blows". One of them you can't get unless you grind Crota harder than we ever grind Atheon and is less than worthless. The other specifically designed to only be useful in PvP. It's not hard to see who ActiBungie is giving the huge middle-finger.

PvE has less problems in general than PvP. You have bugs Pvp has balancing issues

[quote]Don't waste your time on this forum if you are a PvE player! They gathered a team of PvP designers to talk to PVP player's! Don't think for one second they care about the PvE issues! "They "hear" you!" DeeJ is a PvP player that is not into story at all, so he serves absolutely no purpose to the PvE player's that want to be heard and unless there's a different community manager for the PvE side, continue to have your ideas and issues fall on deaf ears![/quote] Deej doesnt even play the game bro.

Lazy programmers and useless project managers. The PVP aspect is easy to create. You just create geographically equal rat ring, make sure no one can get where they aren't supposed to, then let the cowboys and Indians duke it out- simple. Now the PVE side of things takes a little more creativity and forethought. We need a story, challenging objectives other than people just shooting things or other players, introduction of team dynamics, on top of making sure people don't jump where they aren't supposed to. These things take time. Activision and Bungie want to create an ongoing series with the minimum amount of effort, because in the business world time equals money. So they'll focus on the low hanging fruit, the PVP elements, rather than the more costly PVE elements; unless of course you're willing to fork over 60 more dollars, then you can have some old maps you can run backwards, some re-skinned weapons, sparrows, and ships, as well as some new armour that everyone else has.

Bungie have no love for the players, after 6 months of poor communication, degraded game play and deliberately egregious polices, I am 100% certain Bungie management (at the very least) sees players as an impediment.

Pvp is more fun anyway so I hope they focus 90% of their efforts on that