Found a forum post that was mysteriously taken down... here's what it said : ote]I just found this on a post i dont take any credit When I get home I will do my best to record it with my phone Don't complain about the shitty graphics And I'll replicate everything we did yesterday if someone with a YouTube or something can help out so you can explain how we did it better then let me know It'll prove I'm not lying, lol and we can start the tutorials on how to get it! Step 1: the Templar must be killed when the stars know you're real Step 2: the thing binding you to reality must not be held when the Templar is killed Step 3: when atheon is defeated you must be in the places before and after the stars Those of you who read the grimore should know and figure out what the steps are I can't make it too obvious the chest spawns where atheon is The Templar can't kill you when you're cleansed because well you essentially don't exist When the oracles mark you that's when he can kill you because you're no longer just an purgatory, you've become real in the vaults reality. When you cleanse you're essentially hiding yourself again so the Templar can't kill you. Kabr says the stars will sing and decide if you're real If you kill the Templar while unmarked then you're completing the vault of glass in a purgatory state, you don't exist. It's similar to mob of the dead (black ops 2 zombie very interesting as well), you're not alive until you complete a step Second the relic was made to bring light and to bind you to our reality If it's held while you kill the templar again you're not real in the vault just a ghost almost. When the relic is dropped you die because the vault knows you're a threat and it kills you but while it's held you're hiding from it, kill the Templar when you're in the vaults reality and when the stars know you're real. Then you will actually exist in the dimension of the vault. When you enter the vault of glass you must go the the places that are before and after the stars Read the grimore and you find that the left portal leads to the past The right portal is the future You can also tell by the vex These portals have become known as Venus and Mars/mars and Venus This one took me a while to get down but you need one person in each portal before the conflux/Minotaur part is completed Blah blah blah kill atheon WHEN THE RELIC IS DROPPED again same thing applies, we figured it wouldn't but then well yea the relic still binds you to reality and not the vault Kill atheon when the relic is dropped, activate the portals and run through them again nothing spawns nothing happens except when you run through you will not get marked by the void, run back out and the same way atheon spawns the chest spawns We got exotics here and there is it time consuming? Yea took us 7-8 hours to get it down Worth it? Eh you'll probably get no land beyond I'll be helping people tonight if you want, we did it on hard, idk if you need all vault gear or not but it's what we wore, if anyone has a capture card and would like to join please comment so I can have video evidence Edit: the chest appears where atheon spawns Edit: I am on xbox 360 Edit: read the vaults grimore and piece it together lol it's not that hard For gods sake there's a map of the vault below the middle sync plate xD Edit: the needle that moves through the vault, what weapon shoots thin beams of fire Has a thin muzzle? It has a casual loop in it's firing mechanism, we had 2 vex mythoclasts equipped (I didn't use mine I used fatebringer) again I'm not sure if this is required but it's what Some people were wielding Edit: another thing I have is that atheon is Kabr, or maybe atheon isn't the final boss. Kabr was turned into a vex but we never hear from him again Then you enter the trials of Kabr What are his trials? I think Kabr is the final boss we haven't unlocked

Ok I got it Throw money at tv That's 4 words 4-1=3 3 is number o expansions Expansions has 10 letters Ttk has 3 letters So 10-3=7 7 is bungies number. So 7 raid chests in vault of glass. But wait there more Vault of glass is 3 words Hitler had a dog Dog has 3 letters So hitler knows we're the next chest is. And since hitler was once 3 [spoiler]half life 3 confirmed[/spoiler]

[quote]ClockingGames Edited: Feb 27 at 10:06:23 AM Here is a Reddit post by trialofkabr. So far this is the best theory to the VoG mystery I have come across. Does the answer lay with the Oracles? After studying the oracles for the past two months and learning of their spawn order, the tones they make, the scale they play is (C) lydian dominant, or better known as the acoustic scale, the scale is C D E F# G A Bb (C)... i developed a way to conduct the oracles as one person to compose the ascending and descending scale, by this method you would kill the very first oracle that spawns and begin ascension, and on wave 7 the last oracle to spawn would end descension, ive been trying to get a group together forever to attempt this, it asks just as much of the team as it does the person conducting the song/scale. At the bottom i will leave tables and info to train you how to do this and maybe even come up with another breakthrough as last night after a long day of destiny i found myself in orbit, and then it happened.... THE ORBIT SOUNDTRACK STARTS OFF AS THE ORACLES HYMN!!!!!! Im not exactly sure which orbit sound track it is but whenever you first load into the menu for selecting planets it plays the oracles preview scale, check it out and compare the first part to this link of the oracles hymn, which is in C lydian dominant. Destiny Original Game Soundtrack - The Great Unkn…: http://youtu.be/WvJUgLSsX0Y The hymn starts at roughly 13 seconds in the video. Compair it with this https://soundcloud.com/rlcompositions/the-oracles-hymn I need help deciphering this mystery... the old halo skull was from the halo music being played by jumping through the rings, the greatest skull mystery was laid to rest because people read the code and figured out the pattern needed. BUNGIE LEARNED FROM THIS!!! Xurs inventory is completely predetermined, it is subject to change if they will it, but for the most part its already wrote Yet nobody has mined xurs inventory for weeks to come. I believe they hid certain code, and secrets of the VoG could apply to hidden code aswell if xurs code is hidden, so im going to brief everybody now, here is everything i can share, and i will start with a piece of flavorful grimoire. "You will meet the Templar in a place that is a time before or after stars, the stars will move around you, they will mark you, they will sing to you, they will decide your fate. I drank of them. it tasted like the sea." Kabr tells us the oracles taste of the sea, like C lydian dominant(the acoustic scale). This is no coincidence. It is a lead. Now ill take you too the tables ive constructed to debrief the oracles 1 Mid L2 R2 2 L1 L3 R3 3 R1 R3 L3 R2 L2 4 Mid R2 R1 L3 L1 5 L1 R3 L3 L2 R2 R1 Mid 6 R1 L3 L1 R2 Mid L2 R3 7 R3 R2 R1 L3 L1 L2 R1 R2 Mid The notes played; 1 - C F# G 2 - D A Bb 3 - E Bb A G F# 4 - C G A E D 5 - D Bb A F# G E C 6 - E A D G C F# Bb 7 - Bb G E A D F# E G C Okay, so now we can play the oracles hymn, at the moment i believe one person "conducts the oracles" and the others kill the excess, the oracles interact with you, so and so killed an oracle, this depends on the team just as much as the "conductor", so now i will show you how to do this. Ex: ᤾when it spawned/(note played) Phase 1: 1(C) Phase 2: 1(D) Phase 3: 1(E), 5(F#) Phase 4: 2(G), 3(A) Phase 5: 2(Bb), 7(C) (ascending complete.) Phase 6: 5(C) , 7(Bb) Phase 7: 4(A) ,8(G), 6(F#), 7(E), 5(D), 9(C) (completes descenscion.) Its interesting to note that you are given just enough notes in the waves of oracles to play the ascending and descending scale as one person. The only part that asks much of you is 8(G), 6(F#), 7(E), 5(D) On wave 7, and ive figured out the solution to this, at first i thought, well okay ill have rockets for that, but then i wondered, what if i just have a teammate almost kill it and leave it there for me to easily clean up and complete what ive pondered upon for ages. Sidenotes/credits https://soundcloud.com/rlcompositions/the-oracles-hymn By /u/rubixthegreat in his thread http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2liu8h/the_oracles_hymn/ Shout out to; /r/raidsecrets for all their encouragement and kind words that lead me and /u/wordofcrota to continue investigating and posting this here for all too see. Shout out to ; /u/Captain_chips for telling me the name of the orbit song in the comments below! TLDR; oracles play the beggining of the song that plays when you first enter orbit and can select a planet, when they present themselves in the preview waves. The scale is c lydian dominant (acoustic scale) and kabr says the oracles taste of the sea. Iwhbyd skull was also found by playing the soundtrack on the rings. Here we have 7 notes(8 notes played since you have to return to the starting of the scale to end it) that can be played ascending and descending, beginning on the first and ending on the last. Edit; thanks for the love guys, ill keep updates flowing as i can! Edit 2; due to popular demand we have created a post on /r/fireteams for people to add eachother and group up. Here it is http://www.reddit.com/r/Fireteams/comments/2x62ra/oracle_testing_group_sign_ups/ Edit3; thank you mysterious stranger for my first ever reddit gold! ClockingGames EDITS: Edit 1: It is great to see the VoG mystery well and truly alive and thriving. Smartie of Doom blew part of my mind, even though I had read this card at least 20 times, he reminds me - Smartie Of Doom Man i think you are on to something here, have you thought about how the conductor could use the vex mythoclast? It's description is: 'More and instrument than a weapon'. Perhaps this has a role? The Vex Grimoire reads as follows - The Mythoclast is a Vex instrument from some far-flung corner of time and space, mysteriously fit for human hands. Its origins, mechanism of action, and ultimate purpose remain unknown. Perhaps it will reveal itself to you, in time... Great post Smartie, please all keep this in mind when trying this method. EDIT 2: So many likes, some dislikes, great comments and some, well let's say funny responses. From the looks of things it seems like no one has tried this yet or if they have, are yet to post about it. We are going to plough through this theory tomorrow (god willing) and see if we can bust the myth. So far there are 2 of us and we require 4 more Guardians with a bit of patience and some time (pardon the pun) If you have a PS4 - Mic - level 32 Guardian and will be around at 7pm GMT then please let me know. If you understand how this theory works then all well and good, if not, we can go through it step by step. Have a great weekend all, stay safe and keep the secrets of the VoG alive![/quote]

After the Atheon boss fight, maybe the "dead portal" opens! try to find a way out of the room to go back to the jump puzzle. Also, there is a riddle we were given that leads me to believe it. "You have found a pedestal. The chest was there at some point, it lies between future and past, but not present. Time is broken, but it can be fixed, for people have mended it before and left without questioning, what changed. My only hint to you all. Merry Christmas -LRI" WHAT IF time is fixed by beating atheon. Therefore it is not the past portal or future portal. And it is not present because it is a location not place in time. Therefore we need to beat Atheon and go backwards. WHY ELSE would we not automatically go to orbit??

There is also an alternate path to the templar from the sync plates, with the entrance right UNDER the platform the first chest spawns on (similar to the alternate path from templar to gorgons that contains the chest for no teleports). My theory is that it requires a flawless run (no deaths, lost plates, ect) in the sync plates stage. Been dying to put together a badass team on Xbox (One and 360) to try it out. If anyone is interested, PLEASE add me: Bilbo0fBagEnd (The '0' in '0f' is a zero. Mention its a response to this post and I'll be sure to add you)

Add me and my cousin! We have found some interesting spots in the VoG. XBox One: Olafaloofian Burgundy NZ

--VERY WEIRD LIGHT BEHIND ATHEON-- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfmRbjs2jY0 My video. Look how far I can get with my super? Relic can get farther.. Within 30 seconds. I died due to my super running out not a death barrier. Look how detailed those ledges are. Need a team to investigate on ps4. Edit: Just a theory. Doesn't hurt to take an hour to investigate. The light is very weird and could be there for a reason?!

I have read multiple treads about the chest problems and we have found multiple as well. I am playing destiny for a while now and done 37 Vog raids and not quiting so this challenge is nice. I played VoG when it was still possible to cheese the templar i am not sure how many players from then are still left.... When you did that it stopt him from teleporting and spawned a chest in the secret path near the spiritbloom chest. So the chests that are found: 1. The chest after opening the vault 2. The spirit bloom 3. Prevent Templar from teleporting chest 4. Exotic chest 5. Gorgon maze chest Please correct me if i am wrong. After reading all the speculation it made me curious and started to put some things together. Because maby we are making this to difficult for ourselfs. And is the awnser right in front of us. People where talking about taking the eye of the gatelord in to the vault. I actually just saw a video on YouTube where a guy ignored the sync plates and ran to the part where the gate lord usually spawns. And the enemys there where all level 30. I remember a sync plate being there. Has anyone tryed going there with a team or solo to activate that plate?! And what happens if you do activate it or is it only available during the eye of the gatelord mission i will try to find out later on but i will try to solo because of limited time. Maby later this week i can try with a team. There are ofcourse many ways to think of. Maby we should try to complete the sync plates at vog and the plate that summons the gatelord at once. So someone has to solo it during it. I hope this is usefull

Hey dude I am up for some testing (XBox one) Edit: Anybody notice that after the gate keepers the vault door opens again briefly?

Has anyone considered that they may be referring to a chest in the HoW mission that takes you into the VoG as far as the templar's room? This would explain why Bungie was unwilling to speak about it, so as not to reveal details of the missions in HoW. Think about how they've worded it. "is there another chest in the Vault of Glass? We'll never tell." He didn't say "is there another chest in the Vault of Glass [i]raid[/i]"

Our clan wolves brotherhood scanned the whole jumping platform area after gorgons maze, we checked the ledges, reached the abandoned gate, and even encountered a small cave finding only fungus and bat shit. We are left with one theory for that area which is about that abandoned gate, what if 5 gaurdians continued to fight the gatelord and began opening the gates to mars and venus, leaving one gaurdian behind to check on the activity of the abandoned gate. Question is would it activate? If anyone tried this idea please reply