Those Youtube videos (especially death battle) are miscalculations. If you want to see why Goku would win, feel free to read.
This is all copied and pasted, i just found this. His research goes to show that -
[b]Superman’s Peak strength[/b]: 6.6 quintillion tons-->infinity (has been shown to literally lift infinity with ultraman)
[b]Goku's Peak Strength:[/b] unknown but not infinite, easily vastly more than SSJ1
[b]Superman Speed[/b] - based on what batman said: 17 billion km/hr+ = 4,722,222km/s+. Went to sun and back one minute fifty four seconds: 149,597,870.700 from earth to sun so x2 = 299,195,741.4km/114seconds = 2,624,524 km/s = top speed before needing to exert significant effort
[b]Goku's speed[/b] - Earth's diameter: 12756.2 kilometers. Goku crossed that in a second as he did on Namek (bigger than Earth so these aren't even the final results) so he can go 12756.2 km/s or 45,922,320km/hr
at ss1:637,810km/s = 2,296,116,000 km/hr = 2.29 billion km/hr
at ss2:1,275,620km/s =4,592,232,000 km/hr = 4.59 billion km.hr
at ss3: 5,102,480km/s = 18,368,928,000 km/hr = 18.3 billion km/hr
at ss4: 51,024,800 km/s =183,689,280,000 km/hr = 183 billion km/hr
[b]Superman’s Acceleration:[/b] Superman has constant increasing acceleration (over time) so based on the comics his max instant movement would be: 4,722,222km/s
[b]Goku’s Acceleration*:[/b] (This is again based off of the low end namek traverse speed and not the proven faster fighting speed)
Base form: 12,768.2km/s^2,
SSJ1: 637,810km/s^2,
SSJ2: 1,275,620km/s^2,
SSJ3: 5,102,480km/s^2
SSJ4: 51,024,800 km/s^2
[b]Superman’s striking power[/b] - His average punch: 1,109,840,944 psi= 7.80x10^7mt
Small planet shattering punch= less than 4.78e+16mt (which is medium planet exploding power)
[b]Goku’s Striking Power:[/b] Punches and Kicks
ss2: 2x10^32j= 4.78e+16mt
ss3: 8x10^32j= 1.91e+17mt+
ss4: 400x10^32j= 1.912e+19mt+
Kamehameha
ss1= 10^32j
ss2=2x10^32j
ss3=4x10^32j
ss4=10x10^32j
x10 kamehameha= 10^34
[b]Goku's ultimate attack[/b]
Super dragon fist (only using the low end number):
ss3: 10e34+j = 2.39x10^18mt
ss4:10e35+j = 2.39x10^20mt
[b]Superman's durability:[/b]
superman v. the elite = 3.58 x10^30 mt.
Shadow moon = 2.39x10^29 mt
Planet collision= 4.3x10^19mt. Force of earth to face =medium planet punch
One shot durability on earth after fighting. Fighting doomsday w/ armor the explosion): 5.7x10^7m
[b]Goku's durability[/b]
SSJ2: easily withstands multiple punches that shatter medium sized planet explosion tankers
ss2: 2x10^32j= 4.78e+16mt+
ss3: 8x10^32j= 1.91e+17mt+
ss4: 400x10^32j= 1.912e+19mt+
Measuring superman’s durability and other feats in space easily show that he can withstand (shadow moon feat) 2.39 x 10^29mt of force
While on earth, superman’s limits are fighting doomsday w/ armor)(w/o factoring healing) 5.7x10^7mt
This difference makes sense because while on earth superman must contend with the solar rays being spread out all over the planet and being absorbed by the plants animals and being bounced of the planet’s surface and into the atmosphere.
However, in space superman has no one else to share that power with, but nonetheless he does run out of juice and needs to recharge.
Thus, the question becomes: what would it take for Goku to kill the constantly charging battery?
If the battle went to space superman would be even more difficult to defeat.
But the fight would not go to space for three reasons:
1 -, Goku could not breathe in space and therefore would never fight there.
2 - nor, could superman try and maneuver goku into space because goku from ss 1 and on is quicker than superman in an instant and being a saiyan (a warrior race) has superior fighting instinct and muscle memory to wonder woman who is quicker than superman according to batman. “and nobody argues with the damned batman”
3 - If superman tried to flee the fight goku would not allow it even if superman appealed to goku’s lust for battle because although goku, like vegeta, enjoys a battle he does not let a fight prolong that he is unsure of if he can win, which is unlike vegeta.
but even if you were to erroneously claim that superman has the same absorbing capacity on earth and thus the same durability as in space the result would not change:
first, superman could try his infinite mass punch, but that move must be performed under the speed of light and works by the user building up mass and moving towards his opponent so the move, much like goku’s spirit bomb, would be inoperable in a battle of this magnitude.
Second, he could try to beat goku to death with any combination of punches and heat vision blasts (notably this depletes his recharging energy supply)
superman’s punches are capable of shattering small planets, and given his ability to infinitely increase his solar power over time or do more once he got his momentum going he could definitely break through some of goku’s durability.
However, such attacks would require superman to expend a significant amount of energy.
further, superman is himself clearly susceptible to punches which are on par with his own.
those same punches goku demonstrates at ss2.
So, could Goku survive long enough to land enough hits or one hit to bypass Superman’s durability?
The kamehameha requires the user to power up the blast, so that attack could not work as a one shot kill but would reduce some of superman’s durability.
Goku’s punches can be massively faster than light speed, but they would fail to bypass superman’s durability in a one shot, so what does it take to lower superman’s durability?
When superman takes a hit his super dense bio-molecular structure and biol-electric aura protect him and his suit because his just above his skin.
Superman’s solar energy can be depleted over time, which means his durability goes down.
This can be done if superman is in the presence of kryptonite for extended periods of time, is out of the presence of a yellow sun, or yellow sun absorbing organisms or over the course of a battle.
Seeing as how certain hits will bypass superman’s durability or (and at a minimum) will cause him to weaken over the course of enduring several of those hits and thus cause his suit to be torn we can ascertain what will wear superman down.
Superman exerting energy to stay under the speed of light, uses up some solar power despite constant absorption so now 10^44j explosion does very much bypass superman’s durability making superman’s clothes tear. a one shot 10^44j energy attack after superman has used up some solar power will bypass some of superman’s durability and could pierce his skin:
If we look at the movies and/or gt goku has the ability to perform the super dragon fist while standing still, rushing, low on energy, or defendng.
Notably goku does not even need time to focus his energy and can let it fire instantaneously without a moment’s notice
being quicker that superman in an instant he would be able to land the blow, which he can even perform in base form
if superman were even able to increase all of his fighting powers instantly (which time and again he has shown he cannot, that he needs time albeit a low amount of time but more time than goku’s instantaneousness) this would still drain superman’s solar energy reserves
the drain on him would only make superman more vulnerable as it would deplete his durability reserves and make him more susceptible to a super dragon fist
so then end the end it comes down to would a super dragon fist be able to bypass superman’s durability before goku tired out?
yes because of superman’s susceptibility to blows which are equal to his own and less than goku’s capacity
mainly because of the ridiculous amount of power goku expends maintaining the heightened ss3 form which is the one with the highest punching capacity and therefore form goku would likely use
superman would outlast goku in that form and with out a move more penetrating finsihing move than the kamehameha goku would likely tire out and lose
non manga canon goku: the one based on the manga and/or anime, movies and gt...the one death battle was using...
is the clear victor.
goku would be able to significantly decrease superman’s durability and pierce him with the super dragon fist.
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Now add the newest forms from Dragonball Super and do the math on that superman would be beyond slaughtered lmao
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ik this thread is old as sht but yall ppl making this sht way2COMPLICATED quite literally all u have2do is take goku n superman frm the very start wth both wth theyre biggest iconic fights superman wth doomsday n goku wth Great ape vegeta superman got murdered by doomsday n killed whilst goku beat great ape vegeta n almost died so therefore in this arguments basic form putting both at equal terms wth eachother instead of some complicated over the top mathematical mystery oh usig this version of supes no this version of him how is superman gonna beat goku whn he got bodied by his biggest fight frm the very start unlike goku who didnt
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2 RepliesGoku can breathe in space he fought Beerus and mulitple enemies in spaces lol
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No, goku proves why goku would win XD
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Why is this even in the forums?
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Why the hell is this stupid thread in #Destiny Goku sucks. Case closed.
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Guile's Sonic boom would wreck them both.
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TL;DR... Goku is a boss.
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6 RepliesWho the -blam!- is goku
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Edited by DubstepDruid: 3/1/2015 6:37:27 AMyou do realize that superman has punched a dimension out of existence before, and sneezed and entire galaxy away at one point...gokus still more interesting though so he has that going for hi devils advocate: superman has a weakness to magic so if goku's ki blast were made of magic it would be no contest, but also remember that ssj4 is not cannon and should not be treated as such.
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Both would never fight to the death tho
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12 RepliesOr Superman shatters the planet they are fighting in, no atmosphere, Goku can't breathe, gg Superman
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Super Boy Prime or Superman one million would crush Goku.. Hell, the Superman we know today would crush Goku.
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The answer is Batman [spoiler]BECAUSE HE IS BATMAN![/spoiler]
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1 ReplyOk read a lot of the comments first of all Batman thts all on tht lol. Superman might win the first time but knowing goku is a sayian an whenever a sayian is defeated they cum back stronger every time, ther body's can learn from past fights an grow stronger because of it, plus goku is now a sayian god an can fight in space but as far as a winner both wld fight an then stop jst to test themselves or until superman needed a recharge an goku got hungry lol
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Goku doesn't go in with knowledge of his opponents, time and time again he tests them, steps his game up as needed, like a cat toying with a mouse until it gets bored is what would get him beat down by superman. Superman's exceleration is only for flight, in hand to hand he's quick right off the hop.
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2 RepliesAccording to The Ultimate Battle of Ultimate Destiny Mr Rogers would end up on top in a Battle Royale, but given the choice of the two I pick Goku.
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Irrelevant, I couldn't care less
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3 RepliesI must have a different copy of destiny than you
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Oh shit is Goku or superman in Destiny? Yes? No, then why the -blam!- is this here
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SUPERMAN BECAUSE 'MERICA
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1 ReplyGoku can breath in space, matter fact sayians can breath in space. Remember when goku fought against bills on space or when frieza destroyed planet vegeta, the sayians were all in space. Soooo...... Anime facts you need them, im an anime freak bitchhhhhh
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2 RepliesEdited by DeusFever: 2/28/2015 4:55:07 PMNice math. Goku always gives his opponents a chance not to fight. And so does Superman. So they end up sharing dinner together and Superman is grossed out by Goku's eating habits. Fin.
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Holy would win. He can't just be suddenly stripped of his powers like superman can. Just use some kryptonite or fight under a red sun. That way Golu would kick supermans ass.
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This is why ISIS exists.
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Edited by Rikkom: 2/28/2015 11:48:15 PMIdk, superman only takes 1 episode to take out his enemy, not 30 However, goku tends to kill his enemies... Superman would leave goku alive