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2/26/2015 9:36:25 AM
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Why does Truth seem to be irrelevant in Crota Hard?

When posting to recruit players for a run everyone says "Must have Gally or Hunger." Truth tracks too. Is there simply something I don't know about?
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  • This should answer your question: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VTMiRpjaFQY

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  • Unless you're running a void burn mission, Truth is only decent in PvE. Absolutely not worth using it for your exotic slot in PvE. Gjallarhorn and HoC are significantly better.

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  • It takes the damage of 4.5 rockets to down Crota fired from level 32 guardians. Gjallarhorn does the damage of a little over 2 rockets. Hunger of Crota can do about the same damage of 1.5ish rockets. Long story short is that you don't need one to kill Crota. It just means it's slightly easier. I did a ce hard mode run this week with 1 level 31. The 31 was killed by a boomer at Crota when we were rotating (not a skill/experience issue at all he has a 32 playing as a 31 just meant that he was killed outright with a single hit). That left 5 of us. Every single one of us was using gjallarhorns. Obviously 2 guardians were not firing, the sword user and the Titan defender that ran up with him, but 3 gjallarhorns firing at once was more than enough to down Crota. It was overkill. Truth is still very good, it's basically a 100% guaranteed hit with a rocket and you can fire 3 shells without having to reload. In sheer damage though, the gjallarhorn and hunger outclass it.

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  • It's usually because they don't have Gally or hunger. Truth is like the scout rifle of rocket launchers. You are more than welcome to bring it in my fireteam

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    Truth does void damage crotas shield is solar so even a fully leveled truth won't do much to his shield

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    • Because truth has proximity detonation, so it loses its impact damage from the rocket striking crota. This puts it below even a legendary 331 with tracking making it really the 4th tier choice for crota in terms of damage done and reliability. 1:Gjally 2:Hunger 3:Tracking 331 4:Truth 5: Proximity 331 6:Anything Else While it will hit, it just does less damage than other rockets and honestly isn't worth the exotic slot in crota unless you have none of the top 3 choices. Even then I'd rather bring a 331 proximity rocket and save my exotic slot for Red Death/Suros.

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      • It really don't matter ghorn or not just bring maxed weapons. I will say the hoc don't do any extra damage to ultras just majors so any purple rocket with tracking we be just as good.

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      • Truth explodes on closest target

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          Wolfpack for the win bitches

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        • It has horse shoes so it explodes early and cause very little damage if any.

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        • Truth would be perfectly fine. Honestly any rocket with tracking and an attack 300 or above will do the trick if you've got 4-5 players hitting Crota. But don't expect any of the idiots on LFG to realize that.

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        • Hunger of Crota does extra damage I believe. Or does more damage for that matter.

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        • I used Truth until I got my Hunger of Crota. It works fine. People saying it'll explode early probably don't know how to aim. Theres a long distance between the ledge and Crota, and almost all enemies are ~30 feet below your rocket's trajectory. It doesn't do additional DoT, but whatever.

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        • If you have 2 people with Jellyhorn you'll be ok.

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        • Gjallarhorn does the most damage and Hunger foes second highest because of the hive disruptor. Truth will explode early or end up tracking a thrall so its just not very useful

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          • I think using things like throwing knives are more effective

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          • I have used truth because of the tracking, worked fine for me.

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          • Edited by Lord Remoss: 2/26/2015 9:42:57 PM
            Truth is... Truth is good enough for Hard Mode. People are just being elitist because the other guns do a little more damage.

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          • It isn't irrelevant. It was my first exotic and I still use it on hard crota bc I don't have gally or HoC. It doesn't matter what rocket launcher you use as long as 4-5 rockets hit crota and are followed by primary.

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          • The truth will explode in your face more often than not

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            • truth is weaker

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            • Because the truth isn't good in pve...

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              • I think it's more about constant damage then the damage output simply because he regenerates that shield quickly. Granted you can't bring in a hunk of trash. But I think constant damage is more important. Just my opinion.

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              • Because it sometimes will turn to hit the wrong target. I have seen it go halfway to crota and make a 90 degree turn to hit a thrall below.

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                • My request is a 300+ tracking launcher at level 32. Simple.

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                  • Because even when it does it, the proximity detonation causes it to explode early, resulting in less damage

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