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originally posted in: Are auto rifles now useless in PVP?
2/25/2015 10:12:04 PM
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LOL.. lacking before.. no it was you lacking in skill at using them before...
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  • They've been trash since the reduction in critical damage. Take to long to kill in comparison to certain weapons. Also 1 bullet makes a big difference as you're taking longer to kill the person and then there finish you off and you won't be able to handle more than 1 person without needing to constantly reload

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  • 1 bullet only matters if you suck at aiming or are just spraying at the body. If not and aiming for the head 1 bullet means nothing at all. You are not really meant to be able to handle multiple players at teh same time on your own in pvp. it is a team battle after all silly one. And they are only trash to those that are trash at aiming aka spraynpray runngunners.

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  • No I have good aim.. So go get yourself a better excuse..

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  • It is you that need a better excuse saying they suck because of a minor 2.5 change in damage and claiming they sucked before when no they did not.

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  • Not minor as for a few reasons. Nerf in range 2x Fall of damage Minus 25% less critical damage Slightly less stability Over a total of 5% damage depending on weapon type. You keep telling yourself these are minor nerfs.

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  • They are minor nerfs compared to what they could have done to them if they had wanted. If you cannot get kills with them easily after this then you suck at using them.

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  • No don't suck. They are just no longer viable options so they suck. You're playing handicap with them as for close range you may use a shotgun/ fusion rifle.

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  • Edited by LordofChaos: 2/27/2015 6:35:34 AM
    There are still viable options, they do not suck just because they are not the easiest to get kills with. AR was never meant for close range. that is where the SG/FR was meant to rule. AR are meant for mid range, scount mid to long, sniper long, Pulse short to medium, sg close, fr close to short. Not all weapons are meant to be viable or effective and easily used at all ranges of the game all the time. You should not be using a AR while at the flag if someone comes up close to you. That is when you are meant to change to your FR or SG at that point.

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  • No sub machine guns were. And also by doing so they made high impact worse than the low impact as they deal about 50% less damage for 3x the fire rate

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  • AR's are not smg's, there is no real SMG class in this game. High rof does not mean high damage.. it never was meant to be that way. the high rof is to make up for the lower dps to even them out against those that fired slower but did more dps.

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  • Pulse rifles like red death shot faster and go more damage what's your point?

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  • Edited by LordofChaos: 2/28/2015 1:23:51 AM
    the pr is the smg of this game, so should do better in short/close range then the ar. not all weapons are meant to be viable at all ranges all the time.

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  • How.. smg are full auto, shot fast, have slightly high recoil, and little range.. and what fits that are things like atheons epilogue, payback etc

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  • And as I said there is no real true smg in this game. None of the weapons in this game are really smg's they are assualt rifles, which are also full auto, shoot fast, have slightly high recoil and medium range.

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  • Edited by StanleyHalas: 2/26/2015 1:19:34 AM
    Look at my stats....I'd look at yours but you hide them for some reason. I do great in crucible, auto rifles have sucked for a while. Low dps, high ttk and basically just assist machines. If you don't recognize that, I'm doubting your ability to speak accurately to this discussion. Let the big kids talk now

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  • Edited by TheBadBK: 2/26/2015 4:08:28 AM
    Wrong person

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  • I assume you're talking about control? You have 3000 kills total. Play a little more DESTINY pvp, then comment.

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  • Check my warlock pal

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  • Clearly it is you that suck in crucible if you think the AR's have ever sucked in this game. they are extremely easy to get kills with, You just have to aim better as in aim for the head and spray less at the body or limbs.

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  • ARs are bad and so are you. /discussion

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  • It is you that is bad if you cant get kills easily with ar's and only get assists with them.

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  • ARs are bad and so are you. /discussion

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  • "Author has never played destiny". Play the game before you comment. This isn't call of duty

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  • lol.. you silly child. You cant see my game play there is a setting on these forums that keeps game play private from people like you. You will never be able to see my game play here.

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  • They didn't require skill before. I assume that still stands.

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