“As a materialist, I think it has been demonstrated that an embryo is a separate body and entity, and not merely (as some really did used to argue) a growth on or in the female body. There used to be feminists who would say that it was more like an appendix or even - this was seriously maintained - a tumor. That nonsense seems to have stopped. Of the considerations that have stopped it, one is the fascinating and moving view provided by the sonogram, and another is the survival of ‘premature’ babies of feather-like weight, who have achieved ‘viability’ outside the womb. … The words ‘unborn child,’ even when used in a politicized manner, describe a material reality.” -Christopher Hitchens, God is Not Great (pp. 220-21)
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9 RepliesEdited by Britton: 2/20/2015 5:40:55 PMWell I personally agree with the video, a fetus is a human life, and killing it is ethically wrong. The idea of it appalls me. I don't care if you're not ready for a baby, you made the decision to make it so take responsibility. However, i do think that there are medical conditions where abortion is, not acceptable so much as justifiable. For example if a child would not be able to survive outside the womb. But the reasons for it are very few and all are medical. There is [b]no excuse[/b] to abort a child out of your own self interest (college, "I'm not ready", etc). Anyone who does is a complete and utter piece of shit human being.
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The problem I have with all these arguements is where everyone wants to draw the line. If you kill pregnant woman, that's a double homicide. If you currently have an abortion, that's not murder. They want to state that it is murder, so how far can someone back date it until you deny human life? The second an egg is fertilized (because that makes a lot of females murderers)? Why not just go on and call that creepy hobbo masterbating in the corner a murderer of potential children? I would assume the life is considered a life when the government starts wanted all the cash, which was probably three years before conception :)
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7 RepliesEdited by Beef Whistle: 2/20/2015 2:27:54 PMYou are a fool son. Never start a statement saying "as a materialist"... That's almost worse than being christian. Even if it's a quote.
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4 Replies100% prochoice It is 100% up to the female whether or not to abort a "baby". Her word in the matter is and should be what determines the fate of the fetus.
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26 RepliesI guess jerking off is wrong to since it kills the SPERM. We need less people on the planet anyway. Screw you and all the other retarded Jesus freaks. I'm sure girls who got -blam!- REALLY want that baby. -10 logic.
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If you live in America it's cool to be irresponsible and kill or abandon your baby. Durr
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Oh look. Subjective views presented as objective truth. As usual. An embryo and a newborn are biologically not the same thing at all; where one turns into the other and whether one or both should be given moral standing are not simple questions to answer at all. Those answers do not lie solely in biology, else we would already have them, so we should stop pretending they do and get on with combatting the real issue, which is reconciling our oppositional moral systems.
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Orrrr ppl could just do what they want to do
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6 RepliesQuestion. What do you believe comes after death?
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13 RepliesPlanet is already struggling with the current human population. Abortions are needed
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2 RepliesI'm pro-death. Abortion should be mandatory. We need to die off for a while. Let's add the purge too. Once a month. For a week.
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None of this is hard evidence, it's all just opinion. Opinions voiced by a learned individual, perhaps, but that still doesn't prove anyone wrong about anything.
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1 ReplyThis woman is absolutely fantastic. Incredible video.
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1 ReplyStay mad lol not our fault ur a failed abortion
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4 RepliesYou want to adopt a female chinese infant
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11 RepliesAw, what happened to the arguement on whether 7 billion people could live in texas
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I will,be back[spoiler]after an 8 hour nap[/spoiler]
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64 RepliesSuppose we develop the necessary technology for a foetus to be removed from its mother's womb without harming it. Would you support this form of abortion?
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Only the child can choose if and when it wants to die
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Wow. There are some sick people in this world.
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Edited by HuhbZ: 2/21/2015 3:23:23 AMIsn't hitchens dead? Check mate!
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I don't care until it has its own self-awareness.
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I never had an arguement in the first place, but ok.
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3 RepliesAs much as I like the info in that video, she has some pretty radical ideas in her other videos.