I'm not saying this from experience but I was with a team of ransoms from the forums the other day and they needed a sword runner for Crota, so I was like "oh no problem I'm a Hunter and I know what I'm doing so I'll take it" so we finished that, then someone in the same team said they had Atheon checkpoint so we decided to get that out of the way as well, and when we teleported and I took the shield there too, the whole team was dumbfounded because it turned out nobody else knew how to use either relic They said they couldn't find anybody who knew for the longest time, so my question is, did I stumble upon a random group of Christmas noobs who only found other Christmas noobs? Or is this really like a thing where a majority of players don't know how to use the relic? Edit: Wow! 100+ replies? That's crazy I didn't think that so many people felt the same way, glad to see it Edit 2: I'm glad to see so many people weighing in! And quick disclaimer I didn't mean if you don't know how to use either one you're a scrub, I was just asking about me, almost 300 replies, wow