Did HM VoG the other day with randoms, a lvl 32 insisted on being relic holder for templar. He would also take someone with him to help with the back oracles and helpng with harpies. Almost an hour later with him and his friend dying, he said does anyone want to try. So I said yea and went down, he came to follow but I said no, I'll do both back oracles and harpies, just told em to kill templar. Did it first time with the templar only teleporting once. Seriously its really not that difficult. Crota HM today, they needed a SB. I said yes. This kid in the party telling me again and again what to do, of course i ignored everytime. On final sword for crota got told to not blink strike, which i did and then finished him off. The kid never said another word.