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Edited by Is__Endless:
2/13/2015 9:16:04 PM
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"No story? You're just too lazy to read the Grimoire!" (actually read the thread, damn)
EDIT: Yes, the edit is going up here. There appears to be some confusion as to what my thread is about. Please, do not just read the title and respond. Read the thread.
I absolutely hate it when people say this. Why? Well, it's because the Grimoire is not actually in the game. There's no real sense of "lore" in Destiny because I have to not only find these cards in game, but I also have to leave the game (disconnect myself from the experience itself) to find out why I'm shooting and killing thousand upon thousands of enemies.
Honestly, I really enjoy playing this game. To me, Destiny is [u][i][b]not[/b][/i][/u] a game with a great story. In my opinion, Destiny has a lackluster story with even worse storytelling. I mean, people are free to enjoy the story if they want. I won't claim that my opinion is a fact. However, I simply can't find it in my heart to defend this game's story missions and their design. I feel like I'm just shooting Vandals, Dregs, Shanks and Captains because The Speaker says "They're evil. Kill them." You know what I mean, right? Like, I'm never told why I'm fighting the Darkness or why I'm defending a "city" that I can't even enter. The Speaker is all like "Yo, I can tell you, but that'd ruin the Grimoire, you know? Do you want me to ruin the Grimoire?" And, honestly, the Grimoire isn't much help. Why should I read it?
I've spent days and days playing this game, and I still have yet to be told by any NPC why I am serving the freaking Traveler. For all I know, the Traveler and Humankind both started a war with the Hive, Fallen, Cabal, and Vex and they got seriously owned. It was like if Iceland were to challenge Russia. Also, why was I chosen? When we got to safety, why didn't my Ghost tell me why he was looking for me specifically? See, it's this kind of lazy storytelling that makes me rate the story portion of this game poorly. I like Destiny for what I think it is. It's a grindy, repetitive and tiresome battle to "become legend." I like the feeling I get when I luckily get awesome loot. I don't care about the story. I think the story was the weakest part of this game. I like the endgame. I know it's repetitive. I know that we all expected more from Destiny, but I can handle the reality of it. I expected something far different and I was very disappointed initially. However, I got over it. After grinding the story, I never really looked back. I thought the cut scenes were pretty good for the most part (even though they all dodged the question "Why?"). I just thought it was a pointless story in general. Beating the Heart of the Black Garden yielded no change. The Tower is the same. The game is the same. Why did I do all of that? Everything to do with Destiny's story and "lore" is vague. I deem it to be a pointless waste of time.
The next time you want to defend the story by saying "read the Grimoire!" just... don't. I shouldn't have to disconnect myself from Destiny's world to understand it. That's not storytelling.
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"Kill 'em 'cause they're bad" -Speaker
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4 RepliesI bought a game not a book.
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Go to the movies, ticket guy hands you the script.
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I've looked through through the grimore and didn't come up with shit. This game has no story.. for it to be the most expensive AAA game ever made in gaming history, this is a sad sad industry that needs major help. Activision should have gotten a refund.
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I feel ya bro. Personally I REFUSE to read the grimoire cards. It's bad enough I have to use 3rd party websites and forums to access end game content. I refuse to also use a third party website to read a story that should have been cutscenes in the game to begin with. I'm over it though. I'm a longtime CoD player so story means little to me.
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Edited by Azreal_15: 2/14/2015 2:11:35 AMWell said, video games are suppose to bring interactive immersion with their story. If I simply wish to just read a story I'll buy a book. Edit: I do enjoy learning additional content about a games story. That is what the cards should have been, additional content about the game's lore. It should never have been the only way to learn the story.
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3 RepliesEdited by Nintentard: 2/14/2015 3:40:12 AMJesus Christ! I can't believe the excuses that these sheep are making.
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4 RepliesEdited by ItsAbadPlayer: 2/13/2015 10:06:23 PMTo much shit to read. But Shouldn't the story of the game be explained through the campaign? Isn't that what it's for? Not a 2nd source that isn't located in the game.
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5 RepliesThe reason the ghost tells you nothing after waking you up is because that opening scene was only for EXO class, then bungie chopped it up and generalized it to be for all three. This has been admitted by a employee who quit or got fired months ago FYI
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5 RepliesIn all honesty, the story is pretty coherent and straight forward. The reason people tend to not put the pieces together is because its only Luke 2-3 missions a planet about an actual story while the other 2-3 are just side quests of a sorts. The bigger circles with a star in it and those things on the bottom of the star is actual story progression, the rest is side quests. Story is simple, you get brought to life by a "Ghost" to defend humanity and the City from the darkness by first releasing/activating Rasputin. You then go to the Moon since the Hive are invading earth. But at the same time you get contacted by the Stranger Exo and she reveals an evil even bigger than the Hive; The Vex and the source of the Darkness in the Sol, the Black Garden. You go there to shut it down, but it's on Mars, and on Mars the Cabal are already Fighting Vex. ^ That's the story. All the "why's" and reasons are explained by the lore. Why did Humanity almost go extinct? Rasputin activated the final defense system and collapsed the defenses intentionally. Why are the Vex so hell be nt on controlling evergthing? Because they want to write themselves into the code of the world.
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1 ReplyYeah because that how I want a story in a video game to me going on my phone and reading it...
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Your right... The title anyways, I am too lazy to read the grimoire and your super post, I bought a video game not a book
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The whole point is that this is a 'post apocalypse' civilization that is trying to piece together what is really going on. Everything hasn't been revealed yet because no one in-universe actually knows. Except maybe the Stranger, but she doesn't have time to explain. So, you get bits and pieces, and have to fill in the blanks. I agree that the grimoire wasn't really well done, seeing as it isn't accessible in-game. I didn't even find out about it until a couple months ago. But the story is a lot better than most think, because you have to think about it. It isn't spoonfed to you, like some want. It's developing slowly as the game gets deeper. Part of what is good about it is the wild mass guessing and hypothesizing. I go through the game building up events in my mind in a certain way, and someone else sees it completely differently, and it is fun to share those views.
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1 ReplyOP is right. The basic story interests me, but without storytelling I'm disconnected from it all. My character is disinterested and aloof, so why should I care if he doesn't? The lore is vague and mostly lifeless, but there are some grimoire cards that rise above the rest and attempt to bring Destiny's universe to life. I'll say it once again: this game needs a Ghost Theater. Scanning dead Ghosts should yield a memory fragment that you take back to the Tower to watch unfold before the dead ghost's eyes. Seeing Cayde question Ikora about Rasputin's motives, or the Ishtar scientists question their very existence, would bring us into the world Bungie created. That is what Destiny is missing.
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5 RepliesI like randal the vandal.
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3 RepliesI just read the title.
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For me personally i am mixed. I fell in love with Halo lore through the books plus i love reading so the grimore is fine. That being said there is still next to nothing in Destiny, which is a problem. I think they should have done something similar to diablo 3. Keep the grimore but have it read off in game by characters it either applies to or uses. Not all of the grimore could work like that but in diablo you can listen to it or skip it and always come back to it in game. Having both the online grimore and voiced lore in the game would be a much better system in my opinion.
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A proper codex will be added in September. It will be one of those things they come up with thinking "You know, this would be a great idea."
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Bungie's to lazy to put a proper codex in the game.
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1 ReplyBitch the game need the story when you play the game no go on a computer just to read something that could have been on my damn game facts no game ever did this lazy crap halo borderlands list go on and on better story and more fun the story of destiny suck and is boring just facts if you have to stop playing destiny just to read the story then yes the game has fail no one does that and want to do it so don't call the gamer lazy when bungie was being cheap and lazy to give us a good story next time think before you even post on my page fag
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Edited by Kone19ps: 2/13/2015 11:12:14 PMIt's the best example I can think of and what the system of lore in this game as been admitted to be based on is dark souls. Now look at the difference. All the descriptions are in game, there are many more informative Npcs, the world is more open, and even small details such as where you find things matter to the lore. Destiny is just a light version of this done poorly in a much less engrossing way. There is lore, but it's choppy, thrown together from the original script, and takes you completely out of the world to learn about it. Add in the repetitive gameplay and the story doesn't come off intriguing but stale and hollow despite the information being there
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1 ReplyI'm over the "story." Have been since day 1. I just want to shoot sh*t and have fun. People still complaining about the lackluster story need to get over it. It's just annoying at this point. 😐
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I totally agree with you. The grimoire cards were created 10 months before launch and they were originally discussed to be used as supplement info not the basis of the story. It's a bummer they had cut the game content in half :(
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You didn't pay $60+ on the promise of story so that you could read the grimoire.
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If I wanted to read, I would buy a book, not a video game.
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2 RepliesWhat about Floyd mayweather?
