First of all I'm sure most of us already know that bungie will be tweaking weapons. For what reason however I'm not really sure? I understand that a lot of people are not happy in pvp because of the strength of the weapons but if you look at the weapons to which we play with and compare them to real life weapons, the game weapons are actually way underpowered and have very poor range. I don't know the percentage of people that play this particular game actually have real guns but I have many and many different types. A good measure for any weapon and their range is simply go to mothyards in the cosmodrome. Find an elevated spot and take a look at some distant enemies. You will notice the longest shot can only be made with a sniper rifle and it's less than 250m? That's absolutely absurd and 100% false if even comparing to 30-06, 270, 243, 308 and not even in the ball park with a Barrett or some other monstrosity of a rifle. I don't have a rifle in my gun cabinet that the scope isn't sighted in less than 250 yards. Now to assault rifles. I and many friends have AR-15s that of course shoot 5.56 rounds. Some have flex sights some with longer range scopes. Flex sights are easily shot at 100 yards and less while other longer distant scopes can and will shoot just as accurately 200-300 yards as a rifle I listed above. It all depends on the optics on the weapon. As for the recoil their is virtually none shooting a fairly large round because they are gas powered which uses the recoil to eject the cartridge therefore less recoil. Shotguns are an absolute joke on the game. People bitch about the range of a shotgun more than anything in pvp but when compared to real life weapons the range is extremely poor, worst in the game by a long shot no pun intended. A shot gun with "bird shot" loads can and will kill a human at 40 yards easily with only a modified choke. Throw a full paternmaster choke in one with the same ammo and you can knock ducks out of the sky at 70-80 yards. The bad thing about what I'm saying is I haven't mentioned shooting 00 buck shot or slugs which have much more range than bird loads. Finally we have hand cannon my favorite group on the game. Bungie is talking about nerfing the effective range but for what reason? They say people sit back and use them as scout rifles. A Taurus raging bull .454 is very accurate at considerable distances no doubt about it. A 60 yard shot is not out of the question by any means, throw a scope on one and you can get 100 yards easily. Smith and Wesson also make a .500 which is indeed bigger than the raging bull. Looking at the platform, these hand cannons were based on the raging bull, 500, and 357 mags. Again the range is not close to what they can actually do in real life not to mention the recoil on the game is over exaggerated. If all three guardian types can't hold a hand cannon somewhat steady then they need to hit the weight room hard. I'm not bashing people for their opinions on the game nor am I bashing bungie as this is still in fact just a game but if I were them I would fix bugs before I messed with the weapons. Just my 2 cents