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Edited by gaybus22:
2/13/2015 12:41:04 AM
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What makes vision of confluence and fate bringer such good weapons
I just want to know why these two weapons are recognized as being so good even tho the damage cap is only 300 and not 331.
Edit: I just did vog on hard and got it!
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#Destiny
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1 ReplyJust cause they are
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1 ReplyI think they we're/are so great because Bungie actually took the time to try to make them great rather than just slapping together crap with lame perks like most of the new stuff.
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I think my crusader I is better than VoC, but there's no substitute for fatebringer
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Voc has a great fire rate good stability a good impact and a awesome magazine it also deals fire damage and is great for killing vex oracles
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FB still wrecks level 33's in HCE, nuff said.
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Its the element damage and perks such as firefly and full auto. The 300 to 331 diff is really immaterial. I used vision until i got the fang of ir'yut i still rate vision though
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12 RepliesVOC is no longer close to top tier.. Fatebringer is still fine, but is really only great against trash, which is already easy enough to kill. People worked hard for the weapons though, and don't want to give them up so easily.
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Both of these weapons are still decent now, but you will probably find you start to notice they lack punch in HOW.
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they were the meta game weapons of choice. fast firing deep mag scout with solar hard hitting fast reloading hand cannon with firefly (which is arc damage so in arc burn it destroys mobs) the ATK stat really doesnt matter when it comes to raid weapons. its all about the perks
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4 RepliesEdited by MNxMAYH3M: 2/13/2015 4:50:18 AMFatebrtinger for firefly, and the vision for its high clip count and solar ability. meh, people are mad that I mistakenly used clip instead of magazine.
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1 ReplyChristmas noob by any chance!?
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1 ReplyYou a christmas noob?
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1 ReplyFatebringer is different in that it has a scout rifle and sniper rifle exclusive perk, Firefly. So it's the only pistol that has it and probably ever will. Vision of Confluence has auto fire which normally can not be obtained on scout rifles. It's not that special though in my opinion. Full auto doesn't really give you much and the perk can be used for better things on a scout rifle. Like I like the outlaw, firefly combo on them.
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Primaries with elemental damage, good for nightfalls and shields, voc is amazing for handling solar shielded enemies, especially wizards...elemental primaries make nightfalls a breeze, and fatebringer has firefly, my favorite perk in the whole game....
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Edited by sheedyxx: 2/12/2015 9:20:04 PMThey used to be the 2 best primary weapons in the game. These days they are still great weapons. Their unique perks (full auto scout/firefly hand cannon) and elemental damage make up for the 300 but for hard Crota you are best using 331 gear. They are still top tier in nightfall or anything below that
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10 RepliesVOC is meh. There are weapons that can compare. The FATEBRINGER should have been an EXOTIC. It's the only gun they should have made Exotic but didn't. That is Bungie's goof. There isn't any way to make a better hand cannon. It's better than Thorn! The only way they could build a better hand cannone, would be to use the same stats as Fatebringer, add some impact from 91 to say 95, add rate of fire, and add a perk like RedDeath where kills heal you. That would be insane and unrealistic. Thus, Fatebringer will reign supreme as the best gun of all time even when the attack cap is in the -blam!-ing millions!
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Because when you use fatebringer you get the most kills
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Edited by TheJimReaper13: 2/12/2015 9:11:54 PMCan't speak for Fatebringer because RNGesus refuses to let me obtain that beauty. VOC is just a great all around weapon. Great stability, huge clip for a scout, good impact and range. With the addition of solar damage, it's ridiculous against anything with solar shields or nightfalls with solar burn. You can 2 shot the solar shielded shanks in nightfalls, wizards crumble. I really enjoy that weapon a lot. And I don't even use the full auto feature. I use it like every other scout.
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4 RepliesFatebringer: firefly, outlaw and field scout. Voc: no recoil, full auto, field scout and the 27 bullet clip. Both do elemental damage as well and solar/arc are the most useful elements. I honestly prefer the new raid scout rifle to my VoC. I still have it for solar burn though because I think abyss defiant sucks
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4 RepliesFatebringer just hits like a hammer! I loved voc but since I got abyss deviant I've left it alone', it's still a fantastic solar scout rifle, the auto perk and large clip are a bonus too!
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1 ReplyBoth have very good perks AND are PRIMARY with ELEMENTAL DAMAGE. very good weapons. If fatebringer is eventually upgraded to 331, I will use it in everything I do. As it is, I still use it in a LOT situations. I have all crota raid primaries too, goes to show you how great this weapon is.
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1 ReplyYou could also add corrective measure to this list, as I own three, and love each one as equally as I do Voc and FB.
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Full auto and firefly
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Other than hard mode crota no enemies are over level 30 so the 300 max cap isn't that big of a deal..Voc and Fatebringer are imo the 2 best primary legendaries in the game...Once HoW drops then I have a feeling the 300 damage will start to take a toll tho...It's gonna be a sad day when I have to finally retire that HC tho.., I've used it every single day since the first time the Templar dropped it for me, which happened to be my first Vog hard mode attempt...
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There are not many elemental primaries in the game. VoC is great for a solar need at long range while Abyss Defiant is good for solar needs close to mid range. Fatebringer has amazing perks for a hand cannon and arc damage was one of the more difficult primaries to find for a long time.
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1 ReplyI have been using VoC for months - I choose that over my Fang of Ir Yut all the time. VoC - hit's pretty hard, can basically snipe with it, full auto scout, 27 round magazine. Finally got Fatebringer last night, going to max it out & see the power for myself.
