[quote]I think I may have your attention, and before you rage write in the comments; "U dn't have 1 so u cn't say anythgn." I don't want one and I will tell you why here. So, before you defend your prized snowflake gun to the death (actually, if you do and don't post, it would be one hell of a crime scene XD) I'd like you considerate folks to read first and reason later. (Those who skipped this bit are hardline snowflakes with Dr Seuss' "Grinch" taking over.) Ok, my first HUGE problem with Gjallarhorn and, well, all heavies really is ammo. Now, as a titan we have Ruin wings, but, my only exotic gauntlets are No Backup Plans. My usual Exotic is Crest of Alpha Lupi. I don't own ruin wings, and, I'd probably get more use out of an exotic machine gun as you get more ammo for that and the ammo is powerful as well. So, those with Ruin wings who'll tell me to use ruin wings, no, I use CoAL because when we're striking and you down, you're not going to want to wait and nobodies going to save you in the middle of crossfire (So I'll run in and revive you whilst running, 'kay?) Secondly. Tracking ammo. Ok, when did us pansies forget how to aim and track ourselves? Target is moving, lets aim in front and fire to take velocity into account. Boom, Kill. Not too hard. With bosses that are mobile, there are plenty of MG choices that will FAR outpower any rocket. Omnigul vs SGA (With player that can counter stability.) Easy shields down, allows damage on main boss. If you want solar, there's solar MG's as well as void (Corrective Measure for one.) Grouped enemies: You track and have good blast radius Mobile bosses: MG>rockets. Thirdly, Wolfpack rounds. I have a serious issue with this too. It deals more damage to the boss or enemy, but, mostly boss. Shoop da whoop. Now, take your primary weapon and deal that ammount of damage yourself? Well we can do it without a Ghorn. Hell I'm sure I could match those wolfpack rounds in damage with 2 IB shots. Not really much, 4k max I'll give it. Still, I'm sure you won't notice the extra few clips you wasted. fourthy, it's not good in PvP, all rockets are not good in PvP. I'd think SGA would be a PvP weapon with how generous it is with the return rate to the magazine for missed shots. Most MG players get 5 kills with their MG per game, maybe more? Rockets? Well, if they stay together and don't move then *guardian down*. fifthly, I feel there are many more exotic slot worthy weapons out there. Red death, Icebreaker, Suros, Hawkmoon. The primary exotics that have oumph to them, mainly. Red death can heal you, Suros can heal you, Gjallarhorn....can kill you.....Ouch. Red Death and Suros are also primaries, which will level up faster and always have ammo, (Hell, Bad Juju was designed to almost never run out of ammo, and it fills your super. Warlocks know what this feels like, so, why can't the other classes?) Ok, so, Gjallarhorn is superpowerful, it is outright the most DPS in the game, granted. Its wolfpack rounds and tracking may be helpful, but, this gun is just too hyped and, well, too designed for players who can't FPS as well as others. It's a token gun for those who need help playing to be part of a fire team, those who may be new to the FPS Genre. I'm not saying Gjallarhorn is the worst weapon, it's not, it's got the power and the perks to make it great, it just, seems just a bit too much for one gun. For it to be exotic, what is it? Hunger of crota with special rounds and a special skin. Your Gjallarhorn isn't really special anymore. I know people strive for this gun, but, I think it's a waste and I have much better usage of the 1 exotic slot I have. Feel free to discuss, [i]discuss[/i] EDIT: OK, a lot of you confuse me as a raid player, and think my highest level is 29. Wrong on both accounts. I am a strike team player and my titan is max 30, but I'm leveling up some gear I previously got and I need to run a VoG to get the ascendant shards I need. Also, I've been challenged so that, if I ever get a Ghorn, I'm to record myself dismantling it. Deal, I will. I'll Also do so laughing and probably infront of my raid group, but, whatever. Edit 2: Would love to continue talking to you all, but, I've got a life to live. Like me, hate me or disregard me, I have an opinion, I have stated it, and, as dinklebot put it, "[I'VE] WOKEN THE HIVE!"[/quote] Ok I had to quote this just so I can make sure I hit all of the spots and not forget anything, so let's get started: 1. You can't talk about how a gun plays if you haven't used it. I thought using my heavy for an exotic, especially a rocket, was a dumb idea, UNTIL I got a Gjallarhorn and saw how amazing it is. I was in the same boat as you, I mean i had seen videos, but you don't get to really see how good it is until you use it. 2. So you're saying, in your argument about ammo, is that basically heavies are useless and you disregard them. I mean you only have 3 weapons equipped, that's 33% of your firepower, especially the highest damage output one. I use heavies all the time, even without Gjallarhorn. People use Ruin Wings because having a ton of your hardest hitting ammo is amazing, much more than quick reviving (CoAL isn't bad, it's just got a narrower viability. It's for Strikes and normal raids, and just speeds up reviving time. If people are dying outside of Nightfalls and raids, especially at higher level, they need to get better at the game. Ruin Wings, however, can be useful in anything, as it just increases chances of heavy ammo and how much in each pack, helping you in many more ways. 3. I'm just gonna disregard your argument about tracking because there are so many things wrong with it I don't have the time to explain. Get better aim? Well what if he decides to move because a rocket is coming at him? Do I need to take that chance and shoot in front of him so he runs into it? This isn't space invaders, they move more intelligently (usually). 3. Since when was Gjallarhorn stated as the best heavy in any situation? Every gun is situational. I use my MG18A Harms Way all the time, Gjallarhorn is just amazing against raid and strike bosses. People aren't saying that you might as well dismantle every other heavy you have when you get Gjallarhorn, it's just shown to be the best weapon against the higher tier enemies, and is desired when playing against these enemies. 4. Rockets are great in PvP and you either must not play it ever, or be terrible at it if you think rockets are BAD in PvP. 5. Doing damage to a boss isn't a big deal? Yea i love to take my time fighting these strike bosses over and over. Really let's you just enjoy the 45 times I beat Rockets McDickFace this week. Gets better every time. 6. Hunger of Crota with special rounds and a new skin? Yea the roughly 30-50% extra damage isn't a big deal. Might as well be the same thing, you know? I think that's all of them, or all that I felt needed to be pointed out. Hopefully you can read this and get a little more understanding of how good the Gjallarhorn is, but also understand that it's not just black and white on guns in Destiny. Use what you want, mix it up, do whatever. You can do most anything in this game with just about any legendary or above gun.

2 things: 1. Gjallarhorn does the most damage out of any weapon in the game to a single target. FACT 2. If you recieved one, you'd use it. FACT Case and point.

I completely agree. Rather have suros or ice breaker over it any day

Yawn!

You have 0 Crotas End completions and 5 VoG completions. The end.

I have it, but completely agree

It's the most powerful weapon in the game, hands down. It's beautiful and both a literal and figurative blast to shoot. Heavy machine guns can mow the enemy down but the Gjallarhorn clears rooms and destroys bosses. Ruin Wings are still spotty, doesn't drop ammo as often as I'd like but when it does, it's rains purple. And supposedly they work for the whole team. Gjallarhorn is wonderful but I usually only equip it in certain situations.

Ghorn is the best boss killing gun in the game even on mobile bosses but I agree in general a hmg is more useful but 4 shots to down omnigul is insane

I have a ghorn and it is kinda over hyped, but if it has the highest dps in the game then I'll use it on raids and on hard bosses. If I'm gonna do roc then nah. Can't really argue that it's not the strongest weapon in the game.

I think you'd have a much different view if you actually used a Gally. It is valuable for end game content. For strikes and the likes that you enjoy, it is not really needed. Also, SGA sucks. Outside of raids, where it is a gimmick, it is one of the worst exotics in the game. If you want a good MG get the AAO, or the Thunderlord. Back to the Gally, I actually find it boring. Same for the IB. I have 2 Gallys and 3 IBs. They are boring weapons, but they are incredibly useful for raids, so I keep them. When I'm not in those situations, I prefer to use less powerful weapons that influence my playstyle more, such as the Juju, the Monte, or the Invective. So yeah, great weapons, and needed for raids, but boring as hell.

Nothing wrong with your opinion, its just that Gjallarhorn does the most damage in the shortest amount of time, eliminating higher priority targets of even mobs with ease. [spoiler]rockets go boom[/spoiler]

You're just upset you don't have one it's okay, you're not ready yet.. Also corrective measure isn't solar is void, nice try tho Meg you were so close..

I actually read this... And no. You're wrong.

Xur should not sell Ghjallarhorn.