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Full Hard Mode Guide! Health Regen & Crota Strategy!

[b]Loot Table:[/b] [spoiler][u]Lamps:[/u] Pulse Rifle [u]Bridge:[/u] Auto Rifle [u]DeathSinger:[/u] Exotic Weapon [u]Crota:[/u] Hand Cannon, Scout Rifle, Crux of Crota, Ship, Sparrow, Shade DEATHSINGER NOTE: Deathsinger is treated like a [u]chest[/u]. Meaning, you can only get rewards from it once a week per character wether you do it on hard mode or normal.[/spoiler] [b]ENTIRE RAID:[/b] [spoiler]All enemies are level 33. No team revives.[/spoiler] [b]Lamps:[/b][spoiler] [u]Cursed[/u] Thralls, Knights, and Ogres are all hallowed (yellow health bars). More enemies overall.[/spoiler] [b]Bridge:[/b] [spoiler]More enemies seems to be only difference. If you noticed something else comment below![/spoiler] [b]BRIDGE CHEESE:[/b][spoiler][b][u]NORMAL MODE:[/u][/b] You form the bridge legit. One person on each blue spire and one in middle. Kill sword bearer and cross bridge to kill your knight. This person now simply hides and survives. EVERYONE ELSE WIPE (must have a warlock with self revive). Once enemies begin spawning across the bridge (3-10 seconds), warlock self revive and revive everyone. Ogres will eventually spawn, snipe/rocket them while the loan ranger across simply survives. Receive your loot and cross the bridge! [b][u]HARD MODE:[/u][/b] Exact same concept. Only difference is there are no team revives. So for maximum efficiency run with all warlocks with self revive. Less warlocks just means ogres take longer to kill. Still totally doable and very easy.[/spoiler] [b]Hallway Chest:[/b] [spoiler]Shriekers respawn. That being said, the chest is still timed. So if you're in the hallway long enough to see them respawn (7-15 seconds after death) then you took too long.[/spoiler] [b]DeathSinger: [/b][spoiler]1. Song of Liturgy comes sooner. You now have roughly 1:30-1:45 before Song starts giving you 30 seconds to kill DeathSinger. 2. More enemies. DEATHSINGER NOTE: Deathsinger is treated like a [u]chest[/u]. Meaning, you can only get rewards from it once a week per character wether you do it on hard mode or normal.[/spoiler] [b]Crota: [/b][spoiler]1. No Chalice. 2. Boomers are Hallowed. 3. Previous boomer rotation was - Boomers then sword knight to bridge, repeat. Now it's - boomers then hallowed wizard to bridge, repeat. 4. Gatekeeper spawns with first swordbearer (blue knight that can be killed only by sword) and he follows you everywhere (even down to the far back middle room where you normally hide to kill ogres). He will respawn when killed. 5. When Crota gets to 10% health left he will INSTANTLY enrage![/spoiler] [b]New FAST Crota Strategy:[/b] [spoiler][u]Video Description:[/u] http://youtu.be/CjHR-W5t8Is [u]Text Description:[/u] For maximum efficiency have a hunter as sword runner and have 2 defender titans. One with Blessing of Light and one with Weapons of Light. 1. Clear the crystal room of all mobs left and right. Have your Blessing of Light titan drop his shield to make surviving these mobs a lot easier. 2. In crystal room if you look out at Crota, you are looking through 3 glass panels. After clearing the room of mobs run around and camp on the MIDDLE panel. 3. From here do NOT kill boomers. Everyone focus on Sword Bearer with snipers/rockets. 4. Hunter goes to grab the sword and the Weapons of Light titan follows. 5. When in they are in position, everyone bring down Crota. Titan pops shield near Crota and returns to team. 6. After first sword run, drop sword and melee Crota to turn invisible. Pick up sword and stand by Crota in your WoL shield waiting for him to be downed. Get your swings in and return to team. 7. Entire team goes back to crystal room while Crota moves right. Wait for him to go back middle then RINSE AND REPEAT. 8. If you get to Ogres!! Move to the immediate right or left of the 3 glass panels. Have the BoL titan drop his shield. Move in and out of this as you ROCKET the Ogres when they get down to the middle. 9. Hide in crystal room while Crota goes left. Then RINSE AND REPEAT for as long as it takes! Good luck on Crota!![/spoiler] [b]Regenerate Health Tips![/b] [b]Hunters[/b] [spoiler][b][u]Bladedancer:[/u][/b] Column 3: Vanish= Your super makes you invisible (invisible means no attacking, no attacking means longer surviving) Column 4: Escape Artist= Melee makes you invisible (invisible means no attacking, etc.). Fast Twitch: Reduce melee cooldown Column 6: ShadowJack= Increase invisibility duration (I think you know the benefit now) Column 8: Stalker= Go invisible after crouching Hungering Blade= Kills with super & melee immediately regen health (goes great with Fast Twitch) Note: These depend on your play style. Do you want to avoid enemies and be invisible to survive, or do you want to melee them to regen health to survive. [b][u]Gunslinger:[/u][/b] Unfortunately absolutely no help in the health regeneration arena. This is the only one among the 6 subclasses. If you must be a gunslinger, you better have an exotic that helps you regenerate health![/spoiler] [b]Titans[/b] [spoiler][b][u]Defender:[/u][/b] Column 3: Armor/Blessing of Light= Significant Armor increase or Temporary shield on you when entering Ward of Dawn. Column 4: Unbreakable= Force Barrier continually recharges (you shield from melee heals quickly) Column 6: Relentless= Force Barrier is stronger and lasts longer Column 7: Illuminated= Makes Blessing of Light stronger [b][u]Striker:[/u][/b] Column 3: Aftermath= Fist of Havoc leaves damage-dealing field (helps ward off the swarms like a grenade) Column 4: Discharge= Melee does AoE damage (good for the swarms) Column 6: Transfusion= Kill with Shoulder Charge Or Melee triggers health regeneration Column 8: Shoulder Charge/Juggernaut= SC regions health when paired with transfusion or Jugg gives you a protective shield just from sprinting[/spoiler] [b]Warlocks[/b] [spoiler][b][u]Sunsinger:[/u][/b] Column 3: Radiant Skin= Reduce incoming damage OR Fireborn= Self Revive after dying. Column 4: Flame Shield: Melee attack gives temporary shield [b][u]Voidwalker:[/u][/b] Column 4: Lifesteal= Melee attack heals you [/spoiler] [b][u]Weapons[/b][/u] [spoiler][b][u]SUROS Regime:[/u][/b] BOTTOM half of clip MAY heal you with each bullet. [b][u]Red Death:[/u][/b] Each kill heals you! These are unfortunately the only two guns with healing. Most will have SUROS, but if you have Red Death, time to pull it out![/spoiler] [u][b]Armor[/b][/u] [spoiler][u][b]Warlocks:[/b][/u] Apotheosis Veil (Helmet)- You're healed upon use of your super & gain health when picking up orbs. Light Beyond Nemesis (Helm)- Gain health when picking up orbs. [u][b]Hunters:[/b][/u] Mask of The Third Man (Helm)- Gain health when picking up orbs. [u][b]Titans:[/b][/u] An Insurmountable Skullfort (Helm)- Gain health when picking up orbs. Melee immediately regens health. (Great helm for health regen!) Mk. 44 Stand Asides (Boots)- Shoulder Charge & Juggernaut last longer.[/spoiler] Thats all we have so far! If you would like to see anything else in this post comment below. If this was helpful to you drop a [u][b]LIKE[/b][/u] so this post stays trending and everyone can use this guide!
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  • I just updated this post to include health regenerating tips! At the bottom of the post is EVERY POSSIBLE WAY! Exotic weapons & armor and all subclass statistics that help regen health are now there. (Bump so people see and can use this!) Good luck out there, it's pretty difficult!

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    • I am bumping this. People still apparently don't know how to run crota hard, read this

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      • Just so everyone knows.... IF YOU'RE A TITAN AND LOW ON HEALTH, ACTIVATE YOUR SUPER (WARD OF DAWN) AND YOU WILL IMMEDIATELY REPLENISH HEATH. And NO, you don't need any specific raid or exotic armor...

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        • Hey don't forget to check your rolls on your raid helmets there are three different raid helmets for each character. I'm fortunate enough to have the one on my titan. You are more than welcome to inspect it if you would like. I have a friend that has one on his hunter and I've gotten the one for my warlock but I dismantled because in my opinion apotheosis veil is the best hard mode helmet. I'm sure most of you are aware of this information but I wanted this post to come back for newer players and new ppl to the forums. Bump this gaurdians.

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          • Edited by bwerbwerbhb fbfb: 4/11/2015 10:20:20 PM
            Bungie, I paid for the DLC to get NEW weapons not OLD with Hive stuff on it. The raid sparrow is old as well. Just ugly color. The raid ship is old VoG ship with hive shit on it. Weapons are old but just the hive stuff on them. Obsidian mind is THE SAME old legendary helmet from Vanguard http://destiny.wiki.fextralife.com/file/view/nerigal_savant_iii-helmet.jpg [b]GOOD JOB. I know what to expect from your new DLCs. I will see the same AR, HC etc. to the end of the game with different colors and elemnts on them. Aren't you lacking of colors yet? Just curious. People, are you happy with this? You paid for the DLC to have the same shit but with different color or elements on it? Srsly?[/b]

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            • Another Hunter armour option [spoiler]Hunter (and maybe other classes haven't checked) can use the Raku Vindicator helm (crucible vendor or legendary engram) which can drop with the infusion perk, i.e. orbs regenerate health. Just though I would mention it in case Xur never gets around to selling mask of the third man again. means you could run as a gunslinger so golden gun can deal with the oversoul (although this would probably not be recommended and golden gun works best with the 4th shot from acophalyge symbiote helm)[/spoiler]

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            • Unless im just not seeing it posted but if you are a titan defender all you have to do is pop a bubble and your health with regen

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              • This should be the only way to do Crota. Under [u]4[/u] mins with only [i]2[/i] swords is awesome. I've ran hard mode 13 times this week as sword runner for those who need it. https://account.xbox.com/en-us/gameclip/5c130b5d-c593-4aac-8922-3ceff0a5f68c?gamerTag=Sam%20Legacy&scid=03a80100-9ff3-46ea-be76-e00e7fe465df

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                • Edited by Chris louw: 1/22/2015 3:13:47 AM
                  [b]you'll get the rewards as followed: * pulse rifle from the lamps * auto rifle from the bridge * pistol and scout rifle from crota Ps. Allready got them all after running threw with my 3 characters...hard raid is allready useless now -.- [/b]

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                  • Edited by Hene: 1/21/2015 9:15:55 PM
                    Gatekeeper does not follow you if you are on the top floor/stairs unless you get aggro.

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                  • Warlock raid helmet deathsingers gaze gives health web orbs are picked up

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                    • Awesome thanks for the tips

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                    • I really hope that Xur sells some of those weapons or armor that regenerate health.

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                      • This was our strategy, we had our own twist on the middle platform. http://www.bungie.net/en-GB/Forum/Post/94612728/0/0

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                        • We beat crota on hard last night and it was by far the glitchiest I have ever seen! Idk what they did wrong in this last update! Crota kept stand in up way too soon and instantly knifing then the next time we would take his shield down but he wouldn't go down all the way he just stood there while we hit him with the sword and also 3 different times he ended up downstairs in the middle...

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                          • I would just like to fix the warlock part for void walker melees don't heal you melee kills heal you

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                          • Bump so all can see

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                            • Edited by ArrGoat: 1/23/2015 7:25:05 PM
                              If anyone has any requests to add to the guide post below and I'll add it if it's relevant to this post! Toss a bump and a Like if this posted helped you in anyway so this information stays trending for everyone to see! Good luck on Crota!

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                              • Edited by sleepyheadvee: 1/22/2015 7:44:10 PM
                                So I read somewhere that the titan bubble regens the team's health, but it's not working with us. Can anyone confirm or deny this? I'm using the blessing of light, blah blah, the whole setup from this post basically.

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                                • :)

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                                • Bumped and liked. Thank you mate!

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                                  • thanks, the tipps helped, now i'm the proud owner of the shader and a helmet i already had (no fang and no word from crota...so much for smart loot....gg bungie <.<.....)

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                                    • Nice! Thanks!

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                                      • How do you just not include the fact that the hallway has 3 shriekers in hard instead of 2

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                                        • Edited by PLYR BELOW SUKS: 1/23/2015 9:11:26 PM
                                          You forgot the most important thing pleb:! Snipe the boomer on the right tower (left boomer) when camping by the window after you bring down crotas shield!!!!!! Oh my gawwwwwd!!!!!! Git gud scrubs!!!!!!!

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