the heroic maps arnt free! i was waitin ages for them and they are still 800 points

YAY! when do they come out for free?

flyhippy, you rule! I happen to live in S E Michigan too and I totally agree with you about these cheap crybabies complaining about paying $10. These people must have been living in a cave if they didn't know the old maps were going to be free.

People who bought the maps today are either lying or play halo like once a month cause there is no way that your not gonna know that the maps would have been free sometime or another or not have heard someone talk about it or have read it. If your too cheap to buy it, cause 10 dollars is so much money, if you live in S E Michigan let me know, you can come over wash my car or something and i'll give ya 10 $

Dude, I would really love to get "my favourite things" tune as an mp3. I'm a fan of halo, and the sound of music... to hear them blend together was totally awesome! Although most people here are to young to know what 'the sound of music' was, but if budgie could release it as an MP3, it would be totally awesome.

Hornets in matchmaking! I've always wanted to test my skills in matchmaking with a UNSC flying machine! Also a good call to tune it down a notch with the missiles n' guns. Snipers, too! I liked Standoff from Heroic, but the fact that it was so big without a single sniper was disappointing. Ghost Town looks pretty cool, too, and I can't wait to see Moonlight Sonata.

What a blow. I just bought the Heroic Map Pack. :(

Aww bad luck. YAY FREE HEROIC!

I can't believe I bought the maps today when they could have been free tommorow.

This is Bullsh**, what about ALL the people who PAYED for the Heroic DLC? Like, do they get ANYTHING in return? Possibly Legendary Content Free? Because its the same price, and like, we pay money for the same thing that other people are now going to get for free. Its like saying, "I put all this work in for going on this trip, and this person gets to go for doing absolutely nothing" Please, do something for the people who payed. -DBakerr

[quote][b]Posted by:[ off1nthecorner[/b] I wish to make it clear I make 90,000+ a year, so I am no way too "cheap" to buy the new maps, I feel that I should get what I pay for.[/quote] And by refusing to buy the maps, you and everyone else that didn't buy them denied all of us that did buy the maps from getting what [i]we[/i] paid for. How is that fair? Were it up to me, the maps would've been required for all the ranked playlists, limiting everyone that didn't have them to the social ones. [Edited on 03.24.2008 5:20 PM PDT]

294 post !!!!!! anyways great update, and even better podcast

Bungie ignores the fact numerous posters here have noted that they don't intend to ever release new the maps for free. More importantly, they do not NAME THE PRICE for this new DLC. The last price, $10 for 3 maps, was outrageous. I do not mind paying $2 for each map. It would be nice if we could PREVIEW these maps beforehand in order to see if we like them enough to justify a purchase. Blaming Bungie for the pricing is completely acceptable. They produce the product, and unless I am incorrect, they are not responsible or contractually obligated to create new content. They (Bungie) repeatedly state its Microsoft whom sets the prices and they do not agree with it. Then why continue to release a product you cannot control the price of? Last thing: You can't ask for a refund. Just like a CD or another video game, if you don't like it, thats your issue. I hated 2 of the 3 maps in the Heroic DLC. That's not the fault of the maker if my preference doesn't match what is produced. [Edited on 03.24.2008 4:00 PM PDT]

remands me of sidewinder, from Halo: Combat Evolved...

Oh -blam!- off... I just bought the Heroic pack today...damnit.

jeez this map looks alot like sidewinder from the first halo (there's a changing picture on the story) p.s. roughedge is right that's stupid to say how much you need refunds ask yourself this... do your friends like the map? [example] let's say your in a party online and they go to the new maps so you have them and you all can play everybody happy WONG. [Edited on 03.24.2008 3:10 PM PDT]

No need for refunds. Everyone who paid got to play the Heroic map pack for 2 months. There will be a lot of rooks getting pwned starting tomarrow!

Luke: And WHY do "billions" deserve refunds?

This looks awesome. I can't wait for Moonlight Sonata on Tuesday! Rumor on Xbox.com is that it is another remake!!! :) They said something about it being a smaller sized slayer map. I hope it's Midship or Beaver Creek! You can find out about it [url=http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/marketplace/h/halo3/legendarymaps.htm]here[/url] EDIT... Let me just say. To all of you who are complaining about pricing and release dates and all the other crap, it isn't bungie's fault. They just make the maps. Everything else comes from Microsoft. Maybe you should read the updates instead of crying about it. To you bungie, it's time to bring the waaaambulence out of retiremnet. I for one and sick of people crying about this crap. Buy it or don't buy it, but don't tell the whole darn world about you freaking problems, cause we don't care. [Edited on 03.24.2008 1:41 PM PDT]

we better get a refund for the heroic map pack cause billions payed for them

So, I'm looking at the comparison pictures of sidewinder vs. avalanche and having some thoughts. I dont frequent these forums very much so i'm probably just making a fool of myself, but I offer my thought anyways to see what others think. I'm looking up to where the teleporters used to be and seeing these huge mancannon things. I wonder "if the teleporters are gone, then how exactly do you use these places off to the side?" They seem to lose their strategic value with the removal of the teleporters. Sure, you can walk up a ramp, but of what use is this area other than just a sniping spot? I look to where the cannons are pointing and wonder "they point to nowhere special. Why would anyone use them?" It seems to me like these mancannons are places you want to END UP by the use of mancannons instead of GET AWAY from. That's why the teleporters were there. I look at the mancannons facing the bases infront of them. They look like they exist to launch vehicles off of. But where do they end up? There is no ledge or high floor for vehicles to land on. Just a wall. They would hit a wall. That isnt very useful. What if a lone spartan were to use it? Well, they might fall in one of the many holes in the base, or they might just hit a wall. Some value there, but it would be hard to jump just right to actually make it inside and not just lamely hit a wall. I'm wondering, exactly how are most of these mancannons useful? As for any side paths, how are they useful anymore without teleporters or mancannons that go anywhere useful? Are the side paths practically eliminated? They were such an important part of the original map that eliminating them would take away half the value of the entire map itself. They're what made the so map unique and loved. It was the combination of both paths that made people love it. It almost seems like instead of mancannons, these things should be launch tubes to transport you around the map. Like, jump in a tube in the "mancannon" in front of the base, and it sucks you through a tube and puts you out somewhere else like the teleporters used to. As for the INSIDE path that I believe they eliminated, the place where flag passes would often take place, that isnt as bad because it got far less action than the other two paths. I would like it, however, if they replaced that path with something new. Perhaps simply make it an alternate entrance/exit to the base, off to the side. That would be pretty nice. Anyways, I really love the look of this map so far. It is looking like it may end up one of my favorites. I just dont understand how the mancannons quite work in this map, and how any outside (used to be teleporter) path might work. It was really important to the gameplay of the map, and even if a map looks the same, its not nearly the same map if its gameplay is totally changed. I'd rather have a sidewinder that looked like the moon and was shaped like an L instead of a U, and played similarly, than a map that looks just like it but doesnt play the same. The heart of the map is what counts and not the looks. Can anyone explain the mancannons to me? Also, I see a lone teleporter in the base. Where does it lead? Are there more?

They won't use lockout, since Guardian is the remake(?) for that, my best guess is Battle Creek<3.

yes but for silver members wont they be free two weeks later or no??? if you know pleez contact me. [Edited on 03.24.2008 10:51 AM PDT]

what tuesday will you be reavealing the new map, tomorrow or next week?

I love u bungie. Im gonna forge my heart out on foundry

Can't wait to see what the third map looks like! Hey lukems, we'll ya guys (Bungie) ever reveal what you said about Forge DLC in a January Weekly Update?