[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NeverStop91 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wilis_kid I don't think Halo 3 would have been released. The way events happened are like this: Microsoft used Halo 2 as a way of trying to boost sales for Vista and to push its GFWL strategy. However as we all know, Halo 2 Vista was poorly ported, gripped with problems and useless features to enhance gameplay with GFWL like the CD key limit. Add to that trying to charge PC gamers for a service which has always been traditionally free to them with the exception of MMO's and we have a game that PC gamers hate unlike its older brother. As a result of this, M$ have done everything to distance themselves from H2V. They probably think PC gamers don't like Halo because of the poor reception to H2V and probably see no hope for GFWL to even bother trying with Halo 3, let alone Halo 4. It's unlikely we're going to see a Halo title on PC for a while although one can still hope.[/quote] Yeah, you're right. I forgot Halo 2 was an exclusive for Windows Vista. They tried to increase the sales of the new OS with no doubt. But how they thought to be able to give GFWL a push without even releasing Halo 2 Vista in the marketplace? Are they ashamed of it? I agree with you on the fact that Halo 2 wasn't a good porting but do they really care about what people think about it? I think that if a videogame is bought by many people, it doesn't matter if people hate it, they'll make the sequel anyway. Is it because Halo 2 Vista hadn't a great success as Halo 1 with the sales maybe? I don't know how many copies were sold, I am just asking you.[/quote] The game used the GFWL interface and that alone comes with a flock of issues which alot of PC gamers will avoid. The first one as i said was trying to charge for LIVE which put off many gamers and the second big issue is the DRM. Halo 2 could only be installed 5 times before becoming useless, it didn't matter if you had a system reinstall etc and Microsoft didn't care. That and LIVE's unreliability and being prone to crashing causes alot of people to just avoid anything with GFWL on it. As a result, Microsoft hasn't done much if any at all to further GFWL so there really is no reason for gamers who have been put off by the service to come back at the moment compared to say Steam or heck even Origin. As for do Microsoft care about what people think? In terms of Halo 2, they got the money for that although I'm confident that Halo 2 faired very poorly in sales due to all the aforementioned problems. And then even if the game sold well or met M$'s expectations, there's no guarantee it will happen again with Halo 3. People who bought H2V may not have liked it at all (look at the player count in MP at the moment compared to Halo PC) and some may think that Halo 3 will follow a similar path. This alone could see sales be lower than H2V was and Microsoft probably knows it and doesn't want to invest time or money into another port if they can't guarantee it will sell. Halo 2 Vista had the advantage that Halo PC sold well and was received well with PC gamers but Halo 3 wouldn't have had that advantage. We know H2V was poorly ported but we also know Halo can work on PC with Halo 1. For Halo 3 to be successful, Microsoft would have to revamp GFWL, remove all the annoyances associated with it and invest in a good company/team to port it which is something that probably wouldn't be a worthwhile investment. Halo 4 on the other hand, could still work but in my opinion they should start treating PC gamers properly and understand the market better rather than trying to make a quick buck.