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11/8/2012 9:57:42 PM
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Should private groups be able to customize their profanity filter?
Should a private group be able to pick and choose what they feel should be censored? I mean it is kind of like their own little slice of the site. But their power doesn't supersede Bungie's and by customizing their profanity filter it may be a violation of the Terms of Use.
So, what are your thoughts on this?
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I don't think so. I don't see there being much benefit, and it would be some work for the web team.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AmX15 That would mean changing the website rules. All group rules fall under the website rules.[/quote]You're not changing any rule though.
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That would mean changing the website rules. All group rules fall under the website rules.
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I'm indifferent.
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This is one of those ideas that surely wouldn't hurt. But are nowhere near even the bottom of the "priority list" right now.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SkilPhil People who are offended by certain words that are censored on this site. There could be members on this site that have been in a group for ages that may be forced to leave because people are throwing words around that they are sensitive to - although I imagine it would be very rare - it doesn't seem worth it.[/quote] Oh, my. "Offended"? "Forced to leave"? "Sensitive"? You really do need to watch [url=http://www.thatvideosite.com/v/2822]this[/url], as does everyone else playing the inane "offended defence".
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SAKATA GINT0KI [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SkilPhil [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Niko Jims Finding something offensive is not objective, just your opinion. What offends you won't offend someone else. To use the line 'people who are offended' to make a point is extremely weak and holds little, if any, merit.[/quote] I can think of a few words that are filtered which would seriously offend people and would result in a perma ban if bypassed because of that fact.[/quote] People who get offended by a written word do not deserve an opinion. A single word cannot offend anybody who is not a moron. A well written page of insults, 'cutting to their core' as you put it, using no profanity, has a much higher chance of doing so. I'm sure I could write one out that offends a bunch of religious people, or other idiotic groups of individuals like them, without using a single word of profanity. If you are offended by a single word, that is your own problem. No one else's. Take account for your own weakness, don't project it onto others and try to force them to work around your pathetic existence.[/quote] Did you just create that account specifically for that reply? Pathetic existence indeed.
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Sure.
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I don't see why not. Profanity filter has some words censored that really shouldn't be.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] thehippyelite Real men use alt-codes.[/quote]Well, yeah, but it reduces your wpm atrociously.
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Real men use alt-codes.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kivell [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] coolmike699 That's exactly why we should let groups control it. You're saying that some groups can handle something and some can't, so we just shouldn't do it? [/quote] Ok, you dont seem to be getting it. Let me ask you this as simply as I can. Why? What would this accomplish? How would this benefit anything? This is just stupid to me and maybe Im just too old or mature to understand your point of view. But what I dont understand is, with eveything going on in the world, you have your panties in a bunch over wanting to have the right to type filth in an online forum. Also, good points Cobra.[/quote] Good job not mentioning any of your previous contradictions, oh mature one. I don't want the right to curse in private groups (as far as "rights" are concerned we already have that one, because no action has ever been taken against people bypassing the filter in private groups), the ability to change the filter. As for why, what this would accomplish, and how would it benefit us? More freedom for private group managers. It accomplishes the same thing as posting a "rules" thread allowing people to manually bypass the filter, or just not banning people who do. Everything else going on in the world is not relevant to this discussion.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] King Dutchy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NewRadical12 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bungie Sam Expand your vocabulary and such is not required.[/quote]That might be a valid point if Bungie didn't censor words like certain medical/scientific terms.[/quote][/quote] No it wouldn't, because using profanity is in no way a sign of a less expanded vocabulary.
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I've always been behind this idea. [Edited on 11.11.2012 6:59 AM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bungie Sam Expand your vocabulary and such is not required.[/quote]Stephen Fry disagrees.[quote]Swearing is a really important part of one's life. It would be impossible to imagine going through life without swearing and without enjoying swearing... There used to be mad, silly, prissy people who used to say swearing was a sign of a poor vocabulary -such utter nonsense. The people I know who swear the most tend to have the widest vocabularies and the kind of person who says swearing is a sign of a poor vocabulary usually have a pretty poor vocabulary themselves... The sort of twee person who thinks swearing is in any way a sign of a lack of education or a lack of verbal interest or -is just a -blam!- lunatic... I haven't met anybody who's truly shocked at swearing, really, they're only shocked on behalf of other people. Well, you know, that's preposterous... or they say 'it's not necessary'. As if that should stop one doing it! It's not necessary to have coloured socks, it's not necessary for this cushion to be here, but is anyone going to write in and say 'I was shocked to see that cushion there, it really wasn't necessary'? No, things not being necessary is what makes life interesting -the little extras in life.[/quote]And I agree on the thread topic. Private groups are subcommunities. I see no reason why I should have to bypass the filter in a place where language is completely unmoderated except when directed at other users.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Big Vokes if they want you to play nice, play nice.[/quote]>implying curse words are always used maliciously ©
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] anonanon [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat People just bypass it there anyway. [/quote] They should just fix the bypass.[/quote]There are a couple million ways to bypass any fix they use. I want to mean it. I want you to think it. Why can't I just type -blam!-? I completely understand that the site needs to be catered to a certain demographic and maybe they don't want their forums filled with profanity, but private groups should be free from that.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Big Vokes A reasonable suggestion indeed, but I believe if a website has a certain set of forum rules and or a code of conduct, the "private" section of said website should also abide by those rules when dealing with the profanity filter. In other words, if they want you to play nice, play nice.[/quote]So we have to abide by the profanity filter rules in private groups, but not drug, religious, and political discussion rules? You're confusing me.
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A reasonable suggestion indeed, but I believe if a website has a certain set of forum rules and or a code of conduct, the "private" section of said website should also abide by those rules when dealing with the profanity filter. In other words, if they want you to play nice, play nice.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SkilPhil [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Niko Jims Finding something offensive is not objective, just your opinion. What offends you won't offend someone else. To use the line 'people who are offended' to make a point is extremely weak and holds little, if any, merit.[/quote] I can think of a few words that are filtered which would seriously offend people and would result in a perma ban if bypassed because of that fact.[/quote] People who get offended by a written word do not deserve an opinion. A single word cannot offend anybody who is not a moron. A well written page of insults, 'cutting to their core' as you put it, using no profanity, has a much higher chance of doing so. I'm sure I could write one out that offends a bunch of religious people, or other idiotic groups of individuals like them, without using a single word of profanity. If you are offended by a single word, that is your own problem. No one else's. Take account for your own weakness, don't project it onto others and try to force them to work around your pathetic existence. [Edited on 11.10.2012 12:45 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat People just bypass it there anyway. [/quote]
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I think so.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NewRadical12 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bungie Sam Expand your vocabulary and such is not required.[/quote]That might be a valid point if Bungie didn't censor words like certain medical/scientific terms.[/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Niko Jims [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SkilPhil People who are offended by certain words that are censored on this site. [/quote] Finding something offensive is not objective, just your opinion. What offends you won't offend someone else. To use the line 'people who are offended' to make a point is extremely weak and holds little, if any, merit.[/quote] I can think of a few words that are filtered which would seriously offend people and would result in a perma ban if bypassed because of that fact. [quote]Who cares, the guy said 'x', how does that effect you?[/quote] Interesting point to make on an internet forum, a place which exists solely to express ideas through the medium of text and language. As someone once put it: 'Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words cut to the core of my beliefs and form the foundations of my existence'. [Edited on 11.09.2012 4:29 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RockdaleRooster Should a private group be able to pick and choose what they feel should be censored? I mean it is kind of like their own little slice of the site. But their power doesn't supersede Bungie's and by customizing their profanity filter it may be a violation of the Terms of Use. So, what are your thoughts on this?[/quote] Only to the extent of adding new words that the group/owner doesn't want used. I'm against them being able to lift any of the restrictions Bungie already has in place for the main forums.
