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6/17/2012 11:09:00 PM
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What is Crimson anyway?
So I have no idea what Crimson actualy [i]is[/i]. Can anyone provide some source of information on it?
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behold! Crimson Steam Pirates! BUNGiE's highly anticipated and critically acclaimed release since Halo: Combat Evolved it's a turn-based strategy game taking place in the Caribbean Sea [i]Thomas Blood crossed the Atlantic in chains, an enemy of the English Crown condemned by Queen Victoria herself. But his destiny was as a free man, a [url=http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Captain_(Navy)]Captain[/url] of a Steam-powered [url=http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/UNSC_frigate]Frigate[/url], a hero sailing the Crimson Seas... and a [url=http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Space_piracy]Pirate.[/url][/i]
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[url=http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=85312530]Here you go ...[/url] Basically Crimson is a failed bungie idea .. yes bungie themselves abandoned the trademark rather than spend another $300 to renew the registration. Guess getting only a single mobile app title in over 12 months does not inspire confidence. There are a lot of opinions as to why it failed, none of them too favorable - but scroll through what is left of the forum and form your own. The "[i]moderators[/i]" tend to feel it is fun/fair to bait posts into challenging their remarks ... and then -blam- your account under some payback ruling. Go figure ...
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Separikakku[/quote]I think you are confusing Crimson with Bungie Aerospace. Crimson Steam Pirates is a game for mobile devices created by Harebrained Schemes. This game was published by a division of Bungie called Bungie Aerospace. At present, Crimson is the only game they have published. While there have been vague hints that more is coming from them, right now we know nothing.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Old Papa Rich I think you are confusing Crimson with Bungie Aerospace. Crimson Steam Pirates is a game for mobile devices created by Harebrained Schemes. This game was published by a division of Bungie called Bungie Aerospace. At present, Crimson is the only game they have published. While there have been vague hints that more is coming from them, right now we know nothing.[/quote]Confused - dont think so. But if we can take your official reply as a public statement of indemnity? Lets look at the description of the [url=http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=85312530]trademark[/url] as lodged by bungie themselves; "[i]Computer game software downloadable from a global computer network; Computer game software for use on mobile and cellular phones; Downloadable computer game software via a global computer network and wireless devices[/i]". Does not sound like Steam Pirates ... or perhaps bungie got [i]confused[/i] as well? There is a separate trademark for Aerospace (also abandoned, spotting a trend?) Plus a quick look at the dates (and other press release) should help clear the confusion. Crimson registered May 4, 2011. Steam Pirates released Sep 1, 2011. As for "[i]vague hints[/i]", I hope you are not linking those hints on future Harebrained Scheme support. They have released a number of titles since CSP ... but NOT with bungie, wonder why?, what does that say about Harebrained Scheme opinion thus far? [url=http://www.egmnow.com/digitalnoob/free-to-play-strikefleet-omega-on-ios-and-android/]Strike Fleet Omega[/url] on iOS & Android, also [url=http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1613260297/shadowrun-returns?ref=live]Shadowrun[/url]. Few other side projects, but NONE with bungie. Add that to the fact that bungie has abandoned their own trademarks ... well will let everyone else do the sums.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Old Papa Rich While there have been vague hints that more is coming from them[/quote][quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Separikakku As for "[i]vague hints[/i]", I hope you are not linking those hints on future Harebrained Scheme support.[/quote]aha! it's either Old Papa Rich or Separikakku who keeps giving 'HINTS' [Edited on 06.19.2012 10:35 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] path1k [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Old Papa Rich While there have been vague hints that more is coming from them[/quote][quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Separikakku As for "[i]vague hints[/i]", I hope you are not linking those hints on future Harebrained Scheme support.[/quote]aha! it's either Old Papa Rich or Separikakku who keeps giving 'HINTS'[/quote] No 'HINTS' been given here, the Old Papa is stating the truth; [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Old Papa Rich [b]right now we know nothing[/b].[/quote] Why he feels the need to confess his lack of knowledge, or how the [obvious to the rest of us] fact helps the OP ... who would know. Perhaps that would be a 'HINT' worth seeking. Its a little like hinting we wont win Euro 2012. (perfect win record, in 6 hours another - and unbeaten in qualifying - do we need hint?)
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Separikakku perfect win record, in 6 hours[/quote]now if it was [i]7[/i] hours...
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] path1k [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Separikakku perfect win record, in 6 hours[/quote]now if it was [i]7[/i] hours...[/quote] "[i]7 hours[/i]" ... lol - you think we needed to finish the match :) After the GFC suckling we actually own Greece anyway.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Separikakku [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] path1k [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Separikakku perfect win record, in 6 hours[/quote]now if it was [i]7[/i] hours...[/quote] "[i]7 hours[/i]" ... lol - you think we needed to finish the match :) After the GFC suckling we actually own Greece anyway.[/quote] Sad Sep ... and with [i]very[/i] sore head. Lost out to Spain ... given we also put a major down payment on them as well I am going to look at it as given our #1 team the week off. (man, my head hurts, even after 12 hours sleep) Oh yeah ... back OT ... crimson is the colour of my hemorrhaging brain.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] path1k [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Old Papa Rich While there have been vague hints that more is coming from them[/quote][quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Separikakku As for "[i]vague hints[/i]", I hope you are not linking those hints on future Harebrained Scheme support.[/quote]aha! it's either Old Papa Rich or Separikakku who keeps giving 'HINTS'[/quote] Just when you thought all the [i]hints[/i] had been killed off/locked down. '[i]What is Crimson[/i]'?? Kinda funny ... if bungie could give some hints perhaps people would be more in the know. How did the do such a crap job of '[i]publisher[/i]' that people dont know what the games about ... and on their own site. lol ... the world needs more hints ... or perhaps more [b]THAN[/b] hints. Perhaps bungie skipped that section in the '[i]Dummies guide to publishing[/i]'.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Oh GodLike One How did the do such a crap job of '[i]publisher[/i]'[/quote]hint for Oh GodLike One, something like [i]unsatisfactory[/i] job would me more friendly then [i]crap[/i] job. don't wan't to hurt BUNGiE's feelings
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] path1k [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Oh GodLike One How did the do such a crap job of '[i]publisher[/i]'[/quote]hint for Oh GodLike One, something like [i]unsatisfactory[/i] job would me more friendly then [i]crap[/i] job. don't wan't to hurt BUNGiE's feelings[/quote] Try to sum up a reply. By [url=http://www.thefreedictionary.com/crap]public definition[/url] (second form), crap is; [b]1. To fail to keep a commitment or promise[/b] [b]2. To fail to function properly[/b] [b]3. To leave[/b] How many of these apply to bungies record, well; [i]1. To fail to keep a commitment or promise:[/i] Promise was to [url=http://geek.pikimal.com/2011/06/30/bungie-launches-into-indie-publishing-space-with-bungie-aerospace/]propel independent developers into the stratosphere[/url]. Last time I checked the 'S' in [i]developers[/i] meant plural. Even the one (and only) developer hardly got above ground level. I read recently that Hairbrained have since release other titles, but avoided bungie (mmm, wonder why?) [i]2. To fail to function properly[/i] Open this one up to the community (basically TOO MANY options to cover by myself). In what way did bungie function as a publisher? [i]3. To leave[/i] What would the [url=http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=77950813]Abandoned[/url] status refer too ... other than bungie have left the game? (wonder if they gave themselves a DNF penalty? - lol) Even without it being an accepted definition ... sure bungie could have added it to the "blam-register". Plus gotta play by bungies rules, dont they set the tone by blocking/locking threads without notice, telling gamers that "[i]bans are not open to negotiation, and appeal will result in a tougher ban[/i]"?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Oh GodLike One I read recently that Hairbrained have since release other titles, but avoided bungie (mmm, wonder why?)[/quote]perhaps it was because of BUNGiE's complete disregard for [i]helpful[/i] hints how do they expect us to help captain cold kid if they lock his thread before we were able to help him[url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=70340710]?[/url] [Edited on 07.03.2012 8:22 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] path1k perhaps it was because of BUNGiE's complete disregard for [i]helpful[/i] hints how do they expect us to help captain cold kid if they lock his thread before we were able to help him[url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=70340710]?[/url][/quote] Not sure there was ever going to be any helping captain cold kid ... suspect he got dealt a lethal blow from a few bungie helpers. Plus I dont think [i]help[/i] is what this forum is about.
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Crimson is a form of Red. And a game that Bungie did some things with that it's not proud of.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Oh GodLike One Plus I dont think [i]help[/i] is what this forum is about.[/quote]i tried to help those users in need of assistance in [i]getting the blue flaming helmet[/i], but the mods kept locking their threads [Edited on 07.05.2012 4:15 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ArBit3R 818 And a game that Bungie did some things with that it's not proud of.[/quote] Forget the game, it is the things they did to (the one and only) developer that was truly nasty. How is it that bungie claims to help new developers ... and yet they can only get the one, and even that one goes elsewhere for following games. Wonder if Weisman and Parsons are still friends after this?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] path1k [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Oh GodLike One Plus I dont think [i]help[/i] is what this forum is about.[/quote]i tried to help those users in need of assistance in [i]getting the blue flaming helmet[/i], but the mods kept locking their threads[/quote] Suspect thats how the mod get bananas delivered to their cages. Use of advanced intellect applied to behavioral imprinting ... press '[i]lock[/i]' get reward. What else would keep them here?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Oh GodLike One [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] path1k [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Oh GodLike One Plus I dont think [i]help[/i] is what this forum is about.[/quote]i tried to help those users in need of assistance in [i]getting the blue flaming helmet[/i], but the mods kept locking their threads[/quote] Suspect thats how the mod get bananas delivered to their cages. Use of advanced intellect applied to behavioral imprinting ... press '[i]lock[/i]' get reward. What else would keep them here?[/quote] Suspect the mod-monkeys have been undergoing PR training (aka told to behave). The number of locked threads and bans have been down ... shame actually as it did create some interest.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Old Papa Rich I think you are confusing Crimson with Bungie Aerospace. Crimson Steam Pirates is a game for mobile devices created by Harebrained Schemes. This game was published by a division of Bungie called Bungie Aerospace. At present, Crimson is the only game they have published. While there have been vague hints that more is coming from them, right now we know nothing.[/quote] Its been more than a month ... anything to confirm other than the original "[i]vague hints[/i]"?? I recall getting a PM once, about posting unsupported statements (which I then updated to contain external references)... mmm, just cant recall [i]who[/i] that would have been from - lol
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isnt steam pirates just a game version of steam punk?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] outcast97 isnt steam pirates just a game version of steam punk?[/quote] There has been more than a few claims that Bungie copied the game ... came across [url=http://www.andymoore.ca/2011/08/the-third-cloning-of-steambirds/]this one[/url] on another post. Guess when a game has such a low unit price enforceing any copyright becomes difficult (damages being based on unit sale pricing) ... also guessing that bungie would further cloud the issue a claim the role of [i]Publisher[/i] (ok, not a great defense, but enough to slow an outcome) ... and if that didnt work run Apple as the distributor.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Separikakku [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Old Papa Rich I think you are confusing Crimson with Bungie Aerospace. Crimson Steam Pirates is a game for mobile devices created by Harebrained Schemes. This game was published by a division of Bungie called Bungie Aerospace. At present, Crimson is the only game they have published. While there have been vague hints that more is coming from them, right now we know nothing.[/quote]Confused - dont think so. But if we can take your official reply as a public statement of indemnity? Lets look at the description of the [url=http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=85312530]trademark[/url] as lodged by bungie themselves;[/quote] Win ... classic gold medal win. Missed this the first time around ... keep on topic - "[i]What is Crimson anyway[/i]" - yes, it IS a trademark, link kinda spells it out, no confusion here. Old Sep: 1 Ole Papa: 0
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....what the HELL is this topic about?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Bufferfish ....what the HELL is this topic about?[/quote]didn't you read Arbiter 739's original post The Bufferfish? [quote]he has no idea what Crimson actualy is. Can anyone provide him some source of information on it?[/quote] that's where i come in: [quote]behold! Crimson Steam Pirates! BUNGiE's highly anticipated and critically acclaimed release since Halo: Combat Evolved it's a turn-based strategy game taking place in the Caribbean Sea [i]Thomas Blood crossed the Atlantic in chains, an enemy of the English Crown condemned by Queen Victoria herself. But his destiny was as a free man, a [url=http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Captain_(Navy)]Captain[/url] of a Steam-powered [url=http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/UNSC_frigate]Frigate[/url], a hero sailing the Crimson Seas... and a [url=http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Space_piracy]Pirate.[/url][/i] [/quote]
