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6/17/2012 4:18:50 PM
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3rd grader forced to bathe by school employees.
[url=http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/16/12258691-parents-lawsuit-third-grader-forced-to-bathe-at-texas-school?lite]So, the parents sue[/url].
The oddest comment in the article and the one that makes me raise an eyebrow?
[quote]"It's never go two, three days without a bath -- never," the mother said.[/quote]
If it is never two days, why would she mention three?
[quote]"His body and his ears, they were really sore, real tender from being scrubbed," Amber Tilley said.[/quote]
Tender from being scrubbed with a washcloth? Is the washcloth made of sandpaper or is the childs skin that delicate (or unaccustomed to being scrubbed)?
I will admit that this is a strange one, but really doesn't smell right and I don't know if it is the child, the parents, or the school.
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Bah. Half of that's crap. I know it.
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I force my younger brother to take a bath or a shower by locking him in the bathroom, if I don't - he'll go without one for weeks, it's horrible! Gotta say though - weird article to say the least. They probably had to scrub hard because he was so dirty, not out of malicious intent. [Edited on 06.17.2012 8:22 AM PDT]
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Wow. I can't even think of something to say.
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The parents say nobody from the school ever contacted them about a hygiene problem. There's the problem. If it is true that the school never contacted the parents, then the parents are in the right.
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Shouldn't the school have, you know, tried to make some contact with the parents before going to such lengths? Even then, if the situation doesn't improve, call human services to investigate? The school overstepped their boundaries by forcibly washing him. [Edited on 06.17.2012 8:24 AM PDT]
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Thats sick. Really feel sorry for the boy and his parents. Theres no way that should have ever happened.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] coolmike699 The parents say nobody from the school ever contacted them about a hygiene problem. There's the problem. If it is true that the school never contacted the parents, then the parents are in the right. [/quote]
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I wonder if they used bath salts.
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No one was hurt and it disgusts me that children are so filthy now a days. I have a younger brother and he is an absolutely filthy and disgusting human being. More power to these teachers.
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School should of called the parents if there was an issue.
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The school is a place of education. No parent should go and sue such an institution for passing - even forcefully the level of hygiene required to attend to. If they don't have money for water then there are the right bureaucratic procedures, but other kids would suffer from the other's low hygiene. I wonder why in the US people only love to call a lawyer and without clue sue each other over matters that are simple logic; hygiene and prevention are #1 in all schools and it's something that all men and women should learn. If you don't learn physics, maths or anything like that at least let the school pass one important thing for your life.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkONI I wonder why in the US people only love to call a lawyer and without clue sue each other over matters that are simple logic; hygiene and prevention are #1 in all schools and it's something that all men and women should learn.[/quote] Maybe for the same reason that you're assuming that the school was actually thinking about the kid's hygiene.
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I didn't know they had baths in some schools.
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Did the mother just refer to the child as "it"? I do think the school should have at least notified the parents of this issue and he must have been insanely filthy for the injuries from a bath.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xXxX PRO XxXx I didn't know they had baths in some schools.[/quote] I know in my highschool there were some showers in the nurses office, beds, and a bathroom if people got sick. Really though if someone smelled SO BAD that they needed a bath, they should of just been sent home.
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[quote] The injuries that this child has sustained are significant.[/quote]Wait, what? How can cleaning yourself hurt? Does this kid have no layers of skin?
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Yes, it's an assumption because that's what I can tell; all I know is from a news report, I need more information before making an accurate deduction, what I said above is only part of an assumption and overall my opinion, because you can't deny, some people in the US sue each other easily. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] coolmike699 Maybe for the same reason that you're assuming that the school was actually thinking about the kid's hygiene. [/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kneecap [quote] The injuries that this child has sustained are significant.[/quote]Wait, what? How can cleaning yourself hurt? Does this kid have no layers of skin?[/quote] I think they are saying they scrubbed him really hard which could leave marks and hurt I guess. IDK, I would just take a shower.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] coolmike699 The parents say nobody from the school ever contacted them about a hygiene problem. There's the problem. If it is true that the school never contacted the parents, then the parents are in the right. [/quote] I am inclined to agree, to a point. Bad hygiene is a systemic issue and could be a sign of neglect, abuse or other problems at home. But if the child was really filthy, really smelly, that is also an immediate issue and sending the child home in middle of school may not always be feasible (parents may not be home). If there was such an incident in a middle school or high school (and social peer pressure didn't take care of the issue, which I am sure that it would) the dean, principal or teacher would have simply had the student go to the gym and take a shower. I remember in middle school, there were some students who were pre-pubescent and VERY self conscious who didn't shower after gym. They stunk. And the coach wouldn't dismiss them from "class" until they did (once the problem was noticed). Grade school is different though, I don't know if they have the facilities. But the truth is that some kids hate to bathe. I remember one time at summer camp (not band camp, pervs) there were kids who didn't bathe for weeks and they STUNK!
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In my country gym class isn't like that - schools don't have showers, so you can guess how much everyone did smell after gym during math class. Maybe this is a long-shot, but some kids do avoid showering because they feel shy of doing so? [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Recon Number 54 I am inclined to agree, to a point. Bad hygiene is a systemic issue and could be a sign of neglect, abuse or other problems at home. But if the child was really filthy, really smelly, that is also an immediate issue and sending the child home in middle of school may not always be feasible (parents may not be home). If there was such an incident in a middle school or high school (and social peer pressure didn't take care of the issue, which I am sure that it would) the dean, principal or teacher would have simply had the student go to the gym and take a shower. I remember in middle school, there were some students who were pre-pubescent and VERY self conscious who didn't shower after gym. They stunk. And the coach wouldn't dismiss them from "class" until they did (once the problem was noticed). Grade school is different though, I don't know if they have the facilities. But the truth is that some kids hate to bathe. I remember one time at summer camp (not band camp, pervs) there were kids who didn't bathe for weeks and they STUNK![/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] I Senor Skwid I Shouldn't the school have, you know, tried to make some contact with the parents before going to such lengths? Even then, if the situation doesn't improve, call human services to investigate? The school overstepped their boundaries by forcibly washing him.[/quote]
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For the first time in recorded history, [url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2159222/Teacher-burnt-hair-school-lab-She-trying-melt-hair-extensions-says-pupil.html?ito=feeds-newsxml]I can top Recon Number 54's story with a story linked to the subject![/url] It's a fiercly proud moment for me (sadly).
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Recon Number 54 really doesn't smell right[/quote] I see what you did there.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkONI In my country gym class isn't like that - schools don't have showers, so you can guess how much everyone did smell after gym during math class. Maybe this is a long-shot, but some kids do avoid showering because they feel shy of doing so? [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Recon Number 54 I am inclined to agree, to a point. Bad hygiene is a systemic issue and could be a sign of neglect, abuse or other problems at home. But if the child was really filthy, really smelly, that is also an immediate issue and sending the child home in middle of school may not always be feasible (parents may not be home). If there was such an incident in a middle school or high school (and social peer pressure didn't take care of the issue, which I am sure that it would) the dean, principal or teacher would have simply had the student go to the gym and take a shower. I remember in middle school, there were some students who were pre-pubescent and VERY self conscious who didn't shower after gym. They stunk. And the coach wouldn't dismiss them from "class" until they did (once the problem was noticed). Grade school is different though, I don't know if they have the facilities. But the truth is that some kids hate to bathe. I remember one time at summer camp (not band camp, pervs) there were kids who didn't bathe for weeks and they STUNK![/quote][/quote] When I was in gym, I just rinsed my face and had a change of clothes I replaced every week. I never remember being required to take a shower and not many people did, but we were required to have a change of clothes.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Recon Number 54 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] coolmike699 The parents say nobody from the school ever contacted them about a hygiene problem. There's the problem. If it is true that the school never contacted the parents, then the parents are in the right. [/quote] I am inclined to agree, to a point. Bad hygiene is a systemic issue and could be a sign of neglect, abuse or other problems at home. But if the child was really filthy, really smelly, that is also an immediate issue and sending the child home in middle of school may not always be feasible (parents may not be home). If there was such an incident in a middle school or high school (and social peer pressure didn't take care of the issue, which I am sure that it would) the dean, principal or teacher would have simply had the student go to the gym and take a shower. I remember in middle school, there were some students who were pre-pubescent and VERY self conscious who didn't shower after gym. They stunk. And the coach wouldn't dismiss them from "class" until they did (once the problem was noticed). Grade school is different though, I don't know if they have the facilities. But the truth is that some kids hate to bathe. I remember one time at summer camp (not band camp, pervs) there were kids who didn't bathe for weeks and they STUNK![/quote]Eh, my school didn't let us shower after gym unless we were doing swimming. Not sure why, maybe they were trying to encourage people to exercise more by making them embarrassed of being coated in sweat afterwards.
