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[b]LINK REMOVED, ask someone else where to find it All of the below is NOT my writing, it is a user from the Waypoint forums who claims he has the GI Mag[/b] So I just read the new Game Informer. I just wanted to tell you my take on some of the features they'll be adding or taking away. I won't explain the beginning of the story as I don't think I can do justice to accurately describing it. Of course, if you want to experience and don't want to have that experience spoiled then leave this page. [b]LAST WARNING, THIS CONTAINS SPOILERS[/b] (sorta) [b]Spartan Points[/b] Spartan Points is the new currency system in Halo 4. They will buy things such as armor, armor abilities, Spartan Ops missions (see below), and some [b]Spartan Ops[/b] This was probably my most favorite addition I saw. From how it was described, think fo Spartan Ops like Spec Ops from Modern Warfare but with a storyline. They will span out over several months, encouraging players to return to the game. Game Informer said that Spartan Ops will be comparable in scope and size to the in single-player storyline. [b]Why Reds Fight Blues[/b] I think most of us probably guessed this, but reds fight blues and blues fight reds for training purposes. They fight in something called the UNSC Infinity. The UNSC Infinity is a 3km long ship sent into deep space on a mission. It contains a virtual reality sector that creates the multiplayer experience. [b]Sprint[/b] So not only is sprint in the game, but it is a standard armor ability. You do not need to pick it up, it will always be available. You do not need to buy it with your Spartan Points, you will always have it equipped no matter what. So essentially, you can have two armor abilities. [b]Forerunner Vision[/b] Ever wanted to be super man? Now you can! See through walls with your x-ray vision! I can't say I hate this armor ability, I haven't used it yet. I'm hoping it comes with its weaknesses and it discourages camping. Sorry guys, but camping in Halo 4 will not be a legitimate tactic. [b]Returning Armor Abilities[/b] The hologram, jetpack, and active camo will make a return in Halo 4. It didn't elaborate on the abilities, but you can probably assume they'll be about the same. [b]Elites Not Returning to Multiplayer[/b] Not much detail was given as to why elites will not see multiplayer combat, it was stated in a picture caption. The caption reads, "Competitive multiplayer focues on the Spartan IVs. Elites will not be playable. [b]Grenades[/b] Now the article itself did not talk about grenades, but I noticed in the picture the Spartan had 4 grenade options. I assume the plasma grenade will return as seen from an explosion in the picture and the frag grenade will most definitely return as seen by the Halo 4 first look video. [b]Firefight[/b] Once again, no explanation why aside from a picture caption. The caption read, "Halo 4's campaign is still playable with four players online (in reference to Sparan Ops, ensuring players that Spartan Ops will not replace the campaign coop experience). 343 Industries has no plans to include a dedicated Firefight mode. I'm torn on this, I don't normally play firefight, but I feel like it is a standard necessary feature in the game after Halo 3: ODST introduced it. [b]Regicide[/b] Regicide is a variation of free for all. I think it's similar to VIP. Regicide, as stated by the article, "sets the leading scorer as the king. Every opponent that the king kills raises his bounty; other players have to kill the king to claim the reward." [b]Distraction and Revenge Medals[/b] Don't feel bad anymore for not killing a single person in the game, you can get a medal for being a distraction! Oh, you just got killed and now you're raging at that player? Calm down and get rewarded for hunting down the guy that just killed you! Let me make it clear that I do not necessarily see these medals as bad. They just may reward people that don't actually deserve one. [b]No More Weapon Camping[/b] One the skills that separated veteran players from inexperienced players was the ability to time power weapons' spawns. In Halo 4, this will be near impossible. Weapons drop down in drop pods at random locations around the map. Quoted from the article, "This gives the matches other focal points, and it also helps alleviate the advantage longtime players always used to have over newer recruits; the best weapons are not always going to be found at the same spawn locations." Unless there is a distinguishable skill gap between players, I most definitely do not like this idea. [b]No More Respawn Delay[/b] Immediately after you die, by tapping the X button you are sent back into the match. Now let's contemplate why this might be bad. Let's say Halo spawns are... not so great. A skilled player out BRs/DMRs/whatevers a unskilled player. Now that unskilled player can immediately respawn and find you before your shields even regenerate! I understand 343 is trying to speed up the game, but they must understand the consequences of instant spawns. [b]Joining In-Progress Games[/b] So to solve the quitting problem, 343 implemented the ability to join games that are in-progress. My question is are we going to have the ability to search for games starting up instead? It infuriates me to join a game at the last possible second, not even offering me the chance to play. RIP Halo [Edited on 04.06.2012 6:14 PM PDT]
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] a rascal cat It was already better than Call of Duty, in my opinion. It did not need to BECOME like Call of Duty to get better. :| [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] chaos fighter A lot of people say it will be like CoD. What if it is, and it is better than CoD. OMGWTF[/quote][/quote]Still. CoD is not that hard to beat. But most of this is not a OMG halo is dead. This is a fear of change. And 343 just laid a big group of changes. People should wait before they judge. Repost.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Methew And by changing their formula too drastically they are going to loose their current fans.[/quote] I agree completely. [quote]And for what I might ask? The chance of getting new fans? A chance? I understand that the game needs to change to stay updated to the times but they've taken a swan dive into the shallow end of the pool.[/quote] A much better chance than you'd think. Remember that current fans of Halo started playing it many years ago; there is now a new crop of gamers who have grown up on CoD ripe for the picking. It's much more profitable to go after them.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hoggs Bison They [i]are[/i] blatantly chasing CoD. These are the new paradigms for the FPS. Years ago, FPS's used to imitate Halo. Now, Halo is imitating the new top dog. All good things must come to an end.[/quote] And by changing their formula too drastically they are going to loose their current fans. And for what I might ask? The chance of getting new fans? A chance? I understand that the game needs to change to stay updated to the times but they've taken a swan dive into the shallow end of the pool. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Andrei Chikatilo Halo 3 did well right to the end of its lifespan.[/quote] Correction. H3 did well right until MW2 kicked it in the sac and stole the crown. [Edited on 04.06.2012 7:12 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Andrei Chikatilo Bull-blam!-. The brand wasn't dying until Bungie -blam!- up Reach. Halo 3 did well right to the end of its lifespan. [/quote] Ladies and gentlemen, if you will step closer, we can now see Exhibit A: the In-Denial Fanboy. This fanboy is characterized by being so far sunk into his particular game that he is unable to see that [i]something more popular was able to knock the game off its top spot.[/i] That's right, people: the fanboy simply cannot comprehend that his game was simply outmatched by another one. Instead, he ascribes the fall in popularity to the developer of his favorite franchise itself. A sad sight, but we must be moving on.

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  • So can someone point me in the direction of the magazine scan that proves this isn't made up?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] a rascal cat It was already better than Call of Duty, in my opinion. It did not need to BECOME like Call of Duty to get better. :| [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] chaos fighter A lot of people say it will be like CoD. What if it is, and it is better than CoD. OMGWTF[/quote][/quote]Still. CoD is not that hard to beat. But most of this is not a OMG halo is dead. This is a fear of change. And 343 just laid a big group of changes. People should wait before they judge. [Edited on 04.06.2012 7:10 PM PDT]

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  • It was already better than Call of Duty, in my opinion. It did not need to BECOME like Call of Duty to get better. :| [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] chaos fighter A lot of people say it will be like CoD. What if it is, and it is better than CoD. OMGWTF[/quote]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] risay_117 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MWrights The 'Forerunner Vision' is obvious bull-blam!-, even 343i aren't that stupid....are they? [/quote] Can't you not find campers with this aswell.[/quote] But, campers can find you as well.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darkside Eric [url=http://memegenerator.net/instance/18017236]Relevant.[/url][/quote] [i]YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE! IT WAS SAID YOU WOULD HELP HALO, AND STOP THE BS! NOT JOIN IT![/i]

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  • A lot of people say it will be like CoD. What if it is, and it is better than CoD. OMGWTF

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Andrei Chikatilo Halo 3 did well right to the end of its lifespan.[/quote] Correction. H3 did well right until MW2 kicked it in the sac and stole the crown.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ix LP xI [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] antony X1000 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ix LP xI I think we should be grateful. At least they waited until Halo 5 or 6 to implement a "walk through walls" ability.[/quote]Don't give them ideas.[/quote] What? Imagine this loadout: - X-Ray vision - Walk through walls - Primary: shotgun - Secondary: pistol or AR That is SO Halo. It's basically the classic Halo: CE gameplay the old-time fans enjoyed for all these years! /343i logic[/quote] I like you. But yeah, 343 -blam!- up. Not sure I'll be buying this game.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hoggs Bison [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spirit of sand [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NOBLE SlX OP forgot to mention that weapons are bought via spartan points to affect your loadout.[/quote]Oh my God... this isn't true, is it?[/quote] Weapons, AA's, and other "modifications" which I'm assuming are visual unlocks for armor are all bought with your Spartan Points. [/quote];_;

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hoggs Bison The brand was dying. If you don't compete, you lose relevance altogether, and that's what was going to happen to Halo. Right now, all FPS's are playing catch-up with CoD just like FPS's were playing catch-up with Halo so many years ago.[/quote] Bull-blam!-. The brand wasn't dying until Bungie -blam!- up Reach. Halo 3 did well right to the end of its lifespan. Both Bungie and 343 can suck a bag of dicks.

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  • This game sounds like a disaster; but I'll probably still end up playing it, haha. :D [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] snipe champpppp "Oh, by the way. We took out shields to cater to a wider audience!"... Is all this needs to complete the trifecta of bull-blam!-[/quote]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spirit of sand [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NOBLE SlX OP forgot to mention that weapons are bought via spartan points to affect your loadout.[/quote]Oh my God... this isn't true, is it?[/quote] Weapons, AA's, and other "modifications" which I'm assuming are visual unlocks for armor are all bought with your Spartan Points. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Methew Wow... Just wow 343, I mean sure you need to update the franchise to stay relevant to the times but now it just looks like you're blatantly chasing CoD. Perks (they are perks, no matter how much you say otherwise they are still perks), Spec Ops, Customizable Loadouts, 24/7 Sprint, Join in Progress? I could live with most of that. Join in Progress is a deal breaker though. But to gut Firefight and Elites on top of that? If you tell me H4 has Bleedthrough and midrange precision weapons dominate the rest of the sandbox I'll buy the game just to use it as a coaster.[/quote] They [i]are[/i] blatantly chasing CoD. These are the new paradigms for the FPS. Years ago, FPS's used to imitate Halo. Now, Halo is imitating the new top dog. All good things must come to an end.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] antony X1000 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ix LP xI I think we should be grateful. At least they waited until Halo 5 or 6 to implement a "walk through walls" ability.[/quote]Don't give them ideas.[/quote] What? Imagine this loadout: - X-Ray vision - Walk through walls - Primary: shotgun - Secondary: pistol or AR That is SO Halo. It's basically the classic Halo: CE gameplay the old-time fans enjoyed for all these years! /343i logic [Edited on 04.06.2012 7:04 PM PDT]

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  • "Oh, by the way. We took out shields to cater to a wider audience!"... Is all this needs to complete the trifecta of bull-blam!- [Edited on 04.06.2012 7:04 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NOBLE SlX OP forgot to mention that weapons are bought via spartan points to affect your loadout.[/quote]Oh my God... this isn't true, is it?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Little Moa RIP Halo[/quote] cry sum moar.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] a rascal cat This sounds more like Call of Duty than Halo... But alas... :|[/quote] ...poor Yorick?

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  • Wow... Just wow 343, I mean sure you need to update the franchise to stay relevant to the times but now it just looks like you're blatantly chasing CoD. Perks (they are perks, no matter how much you say otherwise they are still perks), Spec Ops, Customizable Loadouts, 24/7 Sprint, Join in Progress? I could live with most of that. Join in Progress is a deal breaker though. But to gut Firefight, Elites and Power Weapons spawns on top of that? If you tell me H4 has Bleedthrough and midrange precision weapons dominate the rest of the sandbox I'll buy the game just to use it as a coaster. [Edited on 04.06.2012 7:03 PM PDT]

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  • OP forgot to mention that weapons are bought via spartan points to affect your loadout.

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  • This sounds more like Call of Duty than Halo... But alas... :|

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  • I'm probably going to get Halo 4 and like it. However, I'm not going to like it as a sequel to Halo, but as an entirely new game.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] risay_117 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MWrights The 'Forerunner Vision' is obvious bull-blam!-, even 343i aren't that stupid....are they? [/quote] Can't you not find campers with this aswell.[/quote] campers see you coming too, and stealth will be a dead concept.

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