Thats a pretty accurate point. I can't even begin to understand how much actual thought that took to realize that. I think that you've been approved by Bungie if this thread is still alive and on the right side of the screen. Good Find, Good Find! P.S: Maybe the dead Elites represent those who defied god(covenant)and were sentenced to hell(killed). Which happens to be where you are hence the name Hell jumpers. Bungie said Hell so many times when it came to this game and we wern't even getting it. [Edited on 04.27.2010 7:19 PM PDT]