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5/28/2011 8:30:08 AM
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MM quitters are ruinng my game not FF afk'ers
There is basicly no punishment for quitting multiplayer games (wow 15 minutes is nothing) and they constantly ruin my games, my teammates games and the games of the people left on the other team and it makes a huge impact in btb. Its impossible to play good games as a full party of 8 as they always quit. Games turn into hide and seek and chasey with 8 on 2 which ruins our game and the poor bastards that dont quit. Not as bad if its flag or bomb as we can end it quickly but games of slayer when we have like 30 kills, 10 minutes left and 2 people who wont quit no matter how bad we spawn kill them. This is not fun for us or them. Please increase the punishment for habitual quitters as its ruining hundreds of games for thousand of players, probably alot more than afking.
Quitters are a problem in every team playlist not just btb and not just against full parties.
Afk'ing is NOT ruining my game and if it was its Bungies own fault for rewarding people doing nothing.
More kills and credits for me, a distraction for my enemies/ someone else for them to go after.
I dont like them earning free credits but thats the systems fault for allowing that.
Something I posted in another thread: Bungie knowingly pay their gamers credits for doing nothing and even promote them then after 8 months decide they didnt like paying them for nothing so they demote you back to a nobody, take any money you earned (even the money earned for many hours of working), anything you bought with the money and say you can work but wont get any credits for 2 weeks.
Edit 1: Examples
It seems to be getting worse. Here's just a couple of examples from the last couple of hours:
[url]http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=626253893&player=Jamage007[/url]
They all quit within a couple of minutes.
[url]http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=626301274&player=Jamage007[/url]
They quit 1 by 1 until there was only 1 guy left and it was slayer so we all had to kill 1 guy until the game was over.
Edit 2: The Revenge/The Test
When we came across a few people that quit on us earlier and a habit quitter we decided to do a test and get some revengeon them so 7 of us hid while the other went to take on the other team 7v1 to see if 1 person could break a spawn trap.
With the rest of us hiding and them only taking on 1 person they didnt seem to quit.
Funny thing is the guy by himself broke the spawn trap and started killing them alot more than they were killing him.
Now one of them quits but the rest stayed.
Since our guy was doing well in a 7v1 situation we stayed hidden to see how this played out. Our Guy went 41 kills 4 deaths, broke a spawn trap and beat a team of 8 singlehandedly.
Thats proof that spawn traps can be broken so please people play on. Not everyone is as good as him but a whole team that stays should be able to do it or at least try and give us some competition.
Game stats: [url]http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=626167309&player=Jamage007[/url]
TLDR: MM quitters are ruinng my game not FF afk'ers and all bungie care about is FF afk'ing not the real thing thats ruining games.
[Edited on 01.09.2012 6:14 PM PST]
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While I can agree with you. More complaining isnt what we need in the forums.
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i would tend to agree with this and i wholly do i just dont want to say anything bad i just got off a 7 day ban for breaking a forum rule but you are right its not a fair nor a balanced system but what are you gonna do? you dont own the place (as epic as that would be)
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make a quit ban an hour...
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That would be a start and alot better than the current system. Please for the love of god dont make any more weekly challenges that ask for 50 or so MM wins as everyone quits even more as soon as they see my teams ranks before the game even starts.
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DONT GIVE BUNGIE ANY BRIGHT IDEAS!!!!! I CAN QUIT WHENEVER I DAMN WANT!!!!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SergeantxDeath DONT GIVE BUNGIE ANY BRIGHT IDEAS!!!!! I CAN QUIT WHENEVER I DAMN WANT!!!![/quote] No you cant. You have no rights remember.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jamage007 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SergeantxDeath DONT GIVE BUNGIE ANY BRIGHT IDEAS!!!!! I CAN QUIT WHENEVER I DAMN WANT!!!![/quote] No you cant. You have no rights remember.[/quote]its a -blam!- VIDEOGAME!!!!!! i would like it that if you quit you lose credits but banns are plain stupid
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Losing credits is a great idea. i just want lees people ruing everyones games.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jamage007 Losing credits is a great idea. i just want lees people ruing everyones games.[/quote]thats how their are hardly any quiters on uncharted, i quit once BAM!!! lost 5000 XP
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SergeantxDeath [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jamage007 Losing credits is a great idea. i just want lees people ruing everyones games.[/quote]thats how their are hardly any quiters on uncharted, i quit once BAM!!! lost 5000 XP [/quote] Maybe thats something we really need in reach, its getting to the point I cant have any fun playing with a full party as they all quit on us.
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I actually enjoy people quiting on my team especially on slayer game modes. Eliminates lag most of the time and gives you the upper hand if you're good. But in objective game modes like invasion, I hate it.
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I have won games were its 1 Vs 4. I can win on my own. Teamates quitting doesnt bother me. My settings are on Lone Wolf so I go off by myself and do fine. Teammates just hold me back. Also half the games people quit on me end up giving me the 3,000 slotmachine lol. So nope not affecting me in a negative way. [Edited on 05.28.2011 1:56 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] VictoryFlowers I actually enjoy people quiting on my team especially on slayer game modes. Eliminates lag most of the time and gives you the upper hand if you're good. But in objective game modes like invasion, I hate it.[/quote] Not when your playing against teams Im usually with. We will just destroy the remaining players more, they get scared of us ruinging thier k'd and they hide. Not fun for them or for us now that the game has turned into hide and seek.
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Nope ur bad
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] irie ll Nope ur bad[/quote]u like shovin -blam!- in ur vag dont ya? [Edited on 05.28.2011 2:06 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jamage007 That would be a start and alot better than the current system. Please for the love of god dont make any more weekly challenges that ask for 50 or so MM wins as everyone quits even more as soon as they see my teams ranks before the game even starts.[/quote] "[i]everyone quits before the game even starts[/i]" ... yeah can see that in [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=617543810&player=Jamage007]this match[/url], and then again in [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=623424513&player=Jamage007]this match[/url] - LOL. But hold on, THATS YOUR TEAM thats quitting before the game starts. You do know that the game result API lets anyone query results and pick up "DNF" games in seconds, so its easy to pick up cases when "your team" quits out before the game started?? Kinda puts the blow on your post. As for solo DNF'ed games - yep, you have them to. Anyone who complains about the poor use of the quit ban should check their own record first. Why do people post when they themselves quit? Even its only an occasional quit. Multiply that small % by the 100k of gamers playing and you have the effect everyone sees. Its not just a "small few quitting a lot", its more a lot of people quitting occasionly. And if you come the defense of "[i]I got lagged out, isp dropped, cheaters, my sisters youtube[/i]" ... or whatever ... then why cant you afford this same defense/excuse to others?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Oh GodLike One [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jamage007 That would be a start and alot better than the current system. Please for the love of god dont make any more weekly challenges that ask for 50 or so MM wins as everyone quits even more as soon as they see my teams ranks before the game even starts.[/quote] "[i]everyone quits before the game even starts[/i]" ... yeah can see that in [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=617543810&player=Jamage007]this match[/url], and then again in [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=623424513&player=Jamage007]this match[/url] - LOL. But hold on, THATS YOUR TEAM thats quitting before the game starts. You do know that the game result API lets anyone query results and pick up "DNF" games in seconds, so its easy to pick up cases when "your team" quits out before the game started?? Kinda puts the blow on your post. As for solo DNF'ed games - yep, you have them to. Anyone who complains about the poor use of the quit ban should check their own record first. Why do people post when they themselves quit? Even its only an occasional quit. Multiply that small % by the 100k of gamers playing and you have the effect everyone sees. Its not just a "small few quitting a lot", its more a lot of people quitting occasionly. And if you come the defense of "[i]I got lagged out, isp dropped, cheaters, my sisters youtube[/i]" ... or whatever ... then why cant you afford this same defense/excuse to others?[/quote] WE NEVER QUIT. I have only quit a handfull of games out of 2,500 and thats only when absolutly nessecary, ill stay in the worst of games. How can you tell who quit. It wouldnt have been us unless we got lagged out coz of the other teams bad connection not ours. Quitting once in a while should be ok but I come across people who quit on us again and again everytime they see our team in the lobby.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AlienxDestroyer make a quit ban an hour...[/quote] lol do you want a population left in arena ? [Edited on 05.28.2011 5:35 AM PDT]
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Personally, I think that instead of punishing people for quitting, Bungie should either attempt to not punish people for staying (i.e. make it easier to break a spawn trap), or make qutting seem less profitable. For instance, kills towards challenges are lost if you don't finish the game or something, or your stats are not recorded.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SKYDROME Personally, I think that instead of punishing people for quitting, Bungie should either attempt to not punish people for staying (i.e. make it easier to break a spawn trap), or make qutting seem less profitable. For instance, kills towards challenges are lost if you don't finish the game or something, or your stats are not recorded.[/quote] Or Bungie should move on were waiting :)
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Have you noticed though that you get almost no AFKers in games now? It is because Bungie were so strict on the issue that people had to stop. So no matter how much they complain, it worked. They need to take this positive and apply it to the the quit ban. I would suggest that you have to wait after every game that you quit. My proposal that the period you are banned from matchmaking is equal to the time left in the game you just quit + 5 minutes. This would soon decrease the number of people quitting games and they might start playing properly. Especially people who quit at the very end of the game. People will complain but in the end it will be for the good of the game
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A ten minute quit ban is not much, especially for someone who is constantly quiting in matchmaking, but you can't be too harsh for technically they are doing nothing wrong. However what I do not understand is if Bungie did not want people to quit the games for it ruins the experience for others then why when you press the start button during game play you have the option to leave the game. Can someone explain that one to me lol
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jamage007 Games turn into hide and seek and chasey with 8 on 2 which ruins our game and the poor bastards that dont quit.[/quote] Well here's a thought. If we make the punishments against quitting even more strict (for the record, they are at Gestapo level now) then you're ruining the day for 6 people either by -blam!-ing them in-game or out. On the other hand, you can lax the anti-quiting initiatives, allow the [i]remaining[/i] two players to quit without penalty, and everyone can be happy. Those that don't want to be stomped on mercilessly don't have to, you still get a crushing victory, and Halo becomes that much more of a well-balanced place as motivation is allowed to guide people to what they truly want to do (rather than what Bungie wants them to out of their power-hungry nature and general incompetence.) [Edited on 05.28.2011 6:04 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xAT 117x Have you noticed though that you get almost no AFKers in games now? It is because Bungie were so strict on the issue that people had to stop. So no matter how much they complain, it worked. They need to take this positive and apply it to the the quit ban. I would suggest that you have to wait after every game that you quit. My proposal that the period you are banned from matchmaking is equal to the time left in the game you just quit + 5 minutes. This would soon decrease the number of people quitting games and they might start playing properly. Especially people who quit at the very end of the game. People will complain but in the end it will be for the good of the game[/quote] Thats another good idea. They were a little harsh with the Afk thing but something does need to be done.
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I completely agree with you. I was banned and reset for AFKing on Wedensday. I am not trying to whine or complain. I am just saying it is not fair because Bungie basically set it up not knowing that people could get credits for nothing. I would also like to say sorry if I hurt anyone by cheating. I am not looking for sympathy, I'm just telling the truth. I only cheated because I thought it made me cool. I did it to impress my friends because I had most of the expensive armor unlocked. I really hope someone will see my reason in this post. Once again I am NOT trying to get unbanned or get my rank back. I am only telling how I feel in this situation. Thank you for posting this. It's about time someone understood what is going on. Halo was my favorite game and recently I have gone back to playing fairly. I really miss it. I have only played one game sense the ban because I don't have any reason to play if I'm stuck as a newbie who is unable to earn credits.
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Yea the quitting is really annoying, Its not just in BTB but in pretty much every game I played tonight between 1 and 4 people quitted and In one the entire team quite. I was thinking the quit ban could increase the more you get it, like 15 mins the first time, 30 the 2nd, an hour the 3rd etc and then it resets each week, although I think the idea of your banned reflecting the time you left the game was a good idea.
