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12/13/2010 12:28:46 AM
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Does 1 = .9999999.......
1/3 = .333.....
2/3 = .666.....
So does
3/3 = .999.....
or
3/3 = 1
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] drummer0702 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kkman4evah I lol'd hardcore. OT: I seriously have a fried brain now. 3/3 is the wierdest number I know now. It equals 2 numbers. Ugh. I really hope that I don't have to use this logic somewhere else >.< I'll be arguing too much with it that I'll fail anyways[/quote] Haha. Don't think of it like that. They actually equal the same number written two different ways. [/quote]That's my exact point haha. I'm used to one number equaling one number. New concepts: Not something I'm good with lolz
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Don't even get me started on 9/9 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dream053 What I'm unclear on is whether in the context of, say, the mass of some physical matter, if, mathematically .999... would still truly equal 1. It seems that this is true because it is demanded by Humanity's mathematicians (which still seems to be out of convenience), rather than a declarative proof by mathematics itself. That is more along the lines of what I was asking initially.[/quote] Well you can't exactly relate it to a physical object since it uses properties of infinite quantities, which don't exist in any tangible sense at all. [Edited on 12.12.2010 8:40 PM PST]
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What I'm unclear on is whether in the context of, say, the mass of some physical matter, if, mathematically .999... would still truly equal 1. Would said mass still be complete and whole or would there be some insurmountable, infinitely small measure missing? Perhaps this is not even an answerable question, as the only way to answer it would be the same method of mathematics. It seems that this is true because it is demanded by Humanity's mathematicians (which still seems to be out of convenience), rather than a declarative proof by mathematics itself. That is more along the lines of what I was asking initially. [Edited on 12.12.2010 8:40 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] m3andak [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Trace007 -_- This late in the game, that isn't funny.[/quote] it isnt made to be funny -__________- [/quote] So it wasn't a joke? Now it's funny.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kkman4evah I lol'd hardcore. OT: I seriously have a fried brain now. 3/3 is the wierdest number I know now. It equals 2 numbers. Ugh. I really hope that I don't have to use this logic somewhere else >.< I'll be arguing too much with it that I'll fail anyways[/quote] Haha. Don't think of it like that. They actually equal the same number written two different ways. [Edited on 12.12.2010 8:38 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Disambiguation [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mister Math [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Disambiguation Pretty soon we'll get an amendment to the flood rules: "No discussing mathematics"[/quote]''-No topics about politics, religion, or controversial topics in mathematics.'' I can see it now. . . they have a ''No 0.999..., 0/0, or airplane of treadmill threads'' topic pinned in the XKCD forums. [/quote] I should venture over to their forums at some point.[/quote] Why? This is where the party is. Stick around. I heard some girls are coming. They love math parties.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] EnderJSV [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] m3andak [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Trace007 -_- This late in the game, that isn't funny.[/quote] it isnt made to be funny -__________- [/quote] Really? Cause I laughed. [/quote] Dr. Math didnt dedicate his entire life to math just to have people laugh at his work [Edited on 12.12.2010 8:37 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] EnderJSV [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] m3andak [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Disambiguation [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] m3andak [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Disambiguation you could have and infinite number of 9's and it still wont equal one.[/quote] Actually, if you have an infinite number of 9's it would equal 1. Please read the previous 500+ posts in this thread :) Thanks.[/quote][url=http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5296/9999j.png]no it isnt. i have disputable evidence made by Dr. Math himself[/url][/quote] CRAP!!! You've proven your case, good sir.[/quote]I lol'd hardcore. OT: I seriously have a fried brain now. 3/3 is the wierdest number I know now. It equals 2 numbers. Ugh. I really hope that I don't have to use this logic somewhere else >.< I'll be arguing too much with it that I'll fail anyways
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] drummer0702 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mister Math I can see it now. . . they have a ''No 0.999..., 0/0, or airplane of treadmill threads'' topic pinned in the XKCD forums. [/quote] The airplane would take off /discussion. [/quote]Indeed, you don't need to even be an engineer to know. It's as obvious as 0.999... = 1, perhaps more so. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Disambiguation [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mister Math [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Disambiguation Pretty soon we'll get an amendment to the flood rules: "No discussing mathematics"[/quote]''-No topics about politics, religion, or controversial topics in mathematics.'' I can see it now. . . they have a ''No 0.999..., 0/0, or airplane of treadmill threads'' topic pinned in the XKCD forums. [/quote] I should venture over to their forums at some point.[/quote]Good place, lots of math majors reside there. [Edited on 12.12.2010 8:37 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mister Math [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Disambiguation Pretty soon we'll get an amendment to the flood rules: "No discussing mathematics"[/quote]''-No topics about politics, religion, or controversial topics in mathematics.'' I can see it now. . . they have a ''No 0.999..., 0/0, or airplane of treadmill threads'' topic pinned in the XKCD forums. [/quote] I should venture over to their forums at some point.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] m3andak [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Trace007 -_- This late in the game, that isn't funny.[/quote] it isnt made to be funny -__________- [/quote] Really? Cause I laughed.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mister Math I can see it now. . . they have a ''No 0.999..., 0/0, or airplane of treadmill threads'' topic pinned in the XKCD forums. [/quote] The airplane would take off /discussion. [Edited on 12.12.2010 8:35 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Disambiguation Pretty soon we'll get an amendment to the flood rules: "No discussing mathematics"[/quote]''-No topics about politics, religion, or controversial topics in mathematics.'' I can see it now. . . they have a ''No 0.999..., 0/0, or airplane of treadmill threads'' topic pinned in the XKCD forums.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Trace007 -_- This late in the game, that isn't funny.[/quote] it isnt made to be funny -__________-
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] m3andak [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Disambiguation [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] m3andak [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Disambiguation [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] m3andak they may be considered the same, but .99999 repeating does not equal 1. .99999 repeating equals .99999 repeating, but rounds to 1[/quote] There's no rounding involved here. People are confusing the difference between a finite number of 9's and an infinite number of 9's.[/quote] you could have and infinite number of 9's and it still wont equal one.[/quote] Actually, if you have an infinite number of 9's it would equal 1. Please read the previous 500+ posts in this thread :) Thanks.[/quote][url=http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5296/9999j.png]no it isnt. i have disputable evidence made by Dr. Math himself[/url][/quote] CRAP!!! You've proven your case, good sir.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] m3andak [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Disambiguation [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] m3andak [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Disambiguation [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] m3andak they may be considered the same, but .99999 repeating does not equal 1. .99999 repeating equals .99999 repeating, but rounds to 1[/quote] There's no rounding involved here. People are confusing the difference between a finite number of 9's and an infinite number of 9's.[/quote] you could have and infinite number of 9's and it still wont equal one.[/quote] Actually, if you have an infinite number of 9's it would equal 1. Please read the previous 500+ posts in this thread :) Thanks.[/quote][url=http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5296/9999j.png]no it isnt. i have disputable evidence made by Dr. Math himself[/url][/quote] -_- This late in the game, that isn't funny.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Disambiguation Pretty soon we'll get an amendment to the flood rules: "No discussing mathematics"[/quote] They're probably editing the rules now.
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Pretty soon we'll get an amendment to the flood rules: "No discussing mathematics"
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Disambiguation [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] m3andak [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Disambiguation [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] m3andak they may be considered the same, but .99999 repeating does not equal 1. .99999 repeating equals .99999 repeating, but rounds to 1[/quote] There's no rounding involved here. People are confusing the difference between a finite number of 9's and an infinite number of 9's.[/quote] you could have and infinite number of 9's and it still wont equal one.[/quote] Actually, if you have an infinite number of 9's it would equal 1. Please read the previous 500+ posts in this thread :) Thanks.[/quote][url=http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5296/9999j.png]no it isnt. i have indisputable evidence made by Dr. Math himself[/url] [Edited on 12.12.2010 8:34 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kkman4evah Thanks for that. Now get to the point at hand or leave >.<[/quote] I'm not referring to you at all. You seem genuinely curious as to why this is the case. Meanwhile, 200 posts back people were attacking us and just grabbing at straws to prove us wrong. I'm quite happy the tone has returned to this state.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Disambiguation OP hasn't posted since page 8 :p[/quote]I'm suprised you took the time to notice that O.o
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] drummer0702 How to get a hot topic- -Ask something that is abstract that many people will have opinions on. -Find multiple people that are dedicated to proving people wrong -Find a dedicated person that likes to play devil's advocat Congratulations you have a hot topic![/quote] with a combination of those three things you may have a pinned topic.
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OP hasn't posted since page 8 :p
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It's a good thing I don't have to try and do this logic for real >.< confuses the sh** out of me
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] EnderJSV [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Trace007 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kkman4evah [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] drummer0702 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kkman4evah It seems that from this math can be easily twisted to reach the required number.[/quote] I don't quite understand what you're saying; can you give an example?[/quote]Like this. 1/3=.3333333.......... (1/3)+(1/3)+(1/3) must equal .999999........ BUT 3/3 also equals 1.[/quote] If 1/3 can equal .3 repeating, why can't 3/3 equal .9 repeating?[/quote] It can. It does.[/quote] Exactly.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] EnderJSV So what? Does that offend you?[/quote] Nope. I'm really surprised that we already have +500 posts into this thread.
