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Edited by FoMan123: 12/1/2015 12:47:39 AM
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Let me start by saying that I'm a 32-year old family man and American Government teacher. I've been a gamer since the inception of console games. I've owned and extensively played OG Nintendo, Super Nintendo, N64, GameCube, Xbox, Xbox 360, abs Xbox One. Gaming is my hobby as well as a way to connect with my dad (he's 60 tomorrow, with 3 290+ Destiny characters, he's The Old Guy on Xbox Live) and my own 3 kids (Disney Infinity lol). I've played the hell out of Bungie games since the days of Halo CE on the old school Xbox, that's part of the reason I was so excited for Destiny. I love Destiny, it's one of the best games I've ever had the privilege to play. That said, I am also a realist and can freely admit that Destiny has flaws. If we're being honest, one of the biggest problems Destiny has is the online community. The Destiny community has three major problems. It's not the "Desticles", it's not the haters, it's not even the "I'm quitting, AMA" people (though I'll address then specifically). The problems in the community come down to 3 key elements: [b]1) People apparently struggle to recognize the difference between fact and opinion.[/b] [spoiler]There are countless threads in the forums attempting to represent the opinions of the OP as incontrovertible fact that cannot be questioned. [i]Both[/i] sides are guilty of this. We all have the shared experience of playing this game way too much, yet we can all come away from it with drastically opinions about the game itself. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Your opinion is not arbitrarily better or more important than anyone else's, regardless of light levels, their K/D, your K/D, what class they main, etc. If everyone would stop trashing other people over petty differences in opinions, the forums would be infinitely better. Which leads me to my next point...[/spoiler] [b]2) Sitting behind a keyboard doesn't give you the right to say whatever you want.[/b] [spoiler]I'm normally very pro-free speech, and I recognize that everyone has that right. But, as I tell my students, rights have responsibilities, and respecting other's rights to free speech is part of that. The way people interact with one another on these forums is obnoxious at best. There is a fundamental lack of respect that I guarantee would not exist in face-to-face interactions. I get that many of you are athletes, weight lifters, fighters, etc. but not even the most badass MMA fighter goes around talking trash to everyone he meets. Face it, you're not hard. Stop acting like it.[/spoiler] [b]3) IT'S. NOT. ALWAYS. ABOUT. YOU.[/b] [spoiler]It seems like the majority of the people on these forums are taking personal offense towards Bungie for the slightest of issues, as though Bungie has personally slapped you with a glove and challenged you to a duel. Get over it, you're acting like a child. Bungie isn't out to get you, they're not trying to sabotage their own game, and they are trying to make things better as they go. That part is fact. Because you don't agree with the changes they make as they try to better their game doesn't mean you've been insulted. And what the hell is with all the "I'm quitting" posts? Who cares? What, you can't choose to quit a game without getting the approval of thousands of strangers who couldn't care less for you as an individual? I'm telling you, that's narcissism at its finest.[/spoiler] I don't know what the solution is, but I know that we all have the potential to make things better through our daily interactions on this site. I welcome all your feedback on this subject and I'll respond when I can. I recognize that I'm inviting trolls to respond, just by the subject matter. Bring them on, they'll just demonstrate my points for me! Stay strong Guardian, thanks for reading. [spoiler][b]Moderator edit:[/b] This thread has been moved to the #Community forum. [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/140400343/0/0]See Cozmo's thread here[/url] for more information about the #Community tag and its uses. Feel free to private message the moderator who moved your post, [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Profile/254/17925]FoMan123,[/url] for further clarification about why this topic was moved.[/spoiler]
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  • Edited by Maverick: 12/23/2015 4:37:44 PM
    Bravo Sir, couldn't have said it better. I have full respect for you! Edit: Reading through the comments I realized that all the Trolls, squeakers, and general Jerks haven't showed up. These forums are like the darkness, and your the light!

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    • Straight up [b][i][u]TRUTH[/u][/i][/b].

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    • you should honesty just buy out bungie's control of these forms and create new mods and create a new format of these forms

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      • Wish you could be a moderator for this app. I would love to see this app be more like you described

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        • I think you need to run for president. Everyone in this community needs to read this

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          • In before cliche "git gud scrub" replies. And the fact that I know it's coming is the reason I agree 100% with you. It's easy to berate and belittle people in this day and age because everyone can do it anonymously from the safety of their sofa. They hold nothing back because there's no real fear of retaliation like there was back when you had to call someone "fgt" to their face. Technology sure brings out the best and worst of humanity.

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            • Nice post

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            • Well said friend

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            • Edited by VdubExile: 12/2/2015 1:50:07 PM
              Out of every game that's been brought out on the ps4 destiny is the only one that feels like it doesn't belong. The lack of content and the way content we already paid for has been made useless..I would pay for destiny as it is now but prior versions felt like a beta. Everything I paid and did prior to ttk was made useless from a competitive stand point and therefore all my money was wasted. All the dlcs up to this point create a full gaming experience, cutting them up the way they did ruined that experience from ever being realized. Idk the full story, but it seems as though the game wasn't finished yet they wanted to profit off of it. So we were all given a beta and they used our free feedback to form the game into what it is. Oh and ttk being priced at 40 bucks was a huge slap in the face to its fans. Maybe the community wouldn't be so toxic if destiny was planned more appropriately for the consumer.

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              • Well said :)

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              • There is nothing i can do except pushing fav button. You got nice points sir, no need to add more comment to add something that was already told effectively...

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              • I was thinking the same thing mate! Thank you.

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              • It's the Internet everyone's a rabid animal

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                • #Destiny is a very, very toxic place. The people in #Gaming are much nicer and level-headed, except if you post a Destiny thread in there. Offtopic is all shitpost, it's a good time, just don't take [u]anything[/u] seriously in there.

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                • Probably one of the best posts I've seen. Honest, factual, compassionate.. If only everyone were so inclined to behave in such a manner.. Not because someone asked them to, but because they choose to.

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                  • I completely agree with you it's extremely Annoying when I see the I'm leaving posts blablabla I love the game with all its flaws but like you said the biggest flaws are in the community

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                  • This man speaks the truth. Spread it like gospel

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                    • This is what online multiplayer games are fun andcongrats

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                    • Well said!

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                    • Great post. [spoiler]sometimes i troll the trolls[/spoiler]

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                      • Well said, this communities communication with each other is obnoxious at best, let's try a little structured dialogue instead of git gud scrub

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                          another retarded problem i've noticed that is driving me insane more than anything else. especially since i've just started ignoring the "my opinion is law everyone bow to and worship me and my epic K/D, if you disagree with me you must be a retarded child" idiots that have infested and over run this forum since destiny launched and refuse to act like a normal human being (unless that is normal and if so my faith in humanity that was already at 0 has actually dipped into the negatives) and apparently are illiterate because of how bad their reading comprehension is. anyway, as i was saying the one thing that is driving me more insane than anything is the fact that alot of people on the form (same people i talked about before half the time, but not limited to them) seem to have it in their head that you are only allowed to play 1 game, and if you play it, you cannot enjoy it, or stop playing it. and if you do switch to a different game, you are not allowed to like it, or anything else, and you can never go back to a game you stopped playing... i cannot even fathom how that makes sense to ANYONE! never mind the crazy people who are saying it! what on this green, retard filled earth can possibly cause someone to believe that much BS like they do... if they were just trolling (which, trolling that is not to begin with, but i won't get started on that tangent) i could kinda see it, but these morons actually believe that crap... i mean wtf...

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                        • You've said what the good people here have just wanted to shout out. Great job putting it into words man! :)

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                        • Great post, but I do somewhat miss feeling like Bungie actually hears the community. Sure the Ninjas reply to posts, but I've not seen as much of them addressing issue with the game as I'd like. Weekly update, forum post, I'd love to see more communication.

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                          • Amazing! Thank you!

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                            • It was good to read and made me question some of my replies thanks for this!

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