How about I bump to disagree. Don't misunderstand I agree that PvE could do with some work on how it plays but I don't believe it's a problem caused by PvP. If you guys find balance to be a problem so much you might try giving examples instead of the constant separate PvE PvP threads. It's what people suggesting PvP balance ideas do, regardless of what is going on in PvE. For example while the upcoming nerfs for shotguns don't seem problematic the damage before the patch was quite nice. Not that I'm really picking sides, I think balance and overall satisfying gameplay is a problem on both. Also referred to as the entire game but I don't want to lose your attention. Which lastly I'll stress the problems have nothing to do with the fact that things act the same way across PvP and PvE. At least not necessarily, sure you could solve it that way but it's not needed and quite arbitrary.