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8/15/2009 6:23:47 AM
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Halo 4, In plain sight. (I was at least part right)

This is an old ass thread from a couple years ago, before ODST even came out. Some has been proven wrong, by Halo 4 has been announced. Now we just have to wait and see how accurate my theory holds to be. _________________________________________ The new addition has been made to the second post. It involves Halo Legends (and now Waypoint), and what it means. (Look for the new link near bottom!) I would like to direct your attention first on the last terminal. If accessed on normal difficulty. [quote] archv.> 28335.67204.85720:[retr] archv.> 28335.67204.85720:[proc] archv.> 28335.67204.85720:[proc] archv.> 28335.67204.85720:[catERR] > CONN. > . > . > NO. THERE IS MORE. > BUT YOU ARE NOT WORTHY. > . > . > NOT YET. > . > . X.XX.713> ghost.713/non-auth/... X.XX.713> refl[/quote] Most of us assume being worthy meant accessing the terminal on Legendary. This is to me plain out wrong. On every other terminal if accessed at different difficulties, you will see different messages about the same thing, or different perspectives of the same event. Also it makes no logical sense because you need not kill anything to reach the last terminal. In Legendary it holds the following message to the player from Mediciant himself. [quote] You don't know the contortions I had to go through to follow you here, Reclaimer. I know what you're here for. What position do I take? Will I follow one betrayal with another? You're going to say I'm making a habit of turning on my masters. But the one that destroyed me long ago, in the upper atmosphere of a world far distant from here, was an implement far cruder than I. My weakness was capacity - unintentional though it was! - to choose the Flood. A mistake my makers would not soon forgive. But I want something far different from you, Reclaimer. Atonement. And so here at the end of my life, I do once again betray a former master. The path ahead is fraught with peril. But I will do all I can to keep it stable - keep you safe. I'm not so foolish to think this will absolve me of my sins. One life hardly balances billions. But I would have my masters know that I have changed. And you shall be my example. [/quote] Now this is very important. The first part. What did he have to do to get there? Does [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=33381763]this[/url] answer your question? I couldn't fit it in here. Now I believe that thread is completely logical, and a master piece onto itself. Now the [i] very [/i] important part. [quote]The path ahead is fraught with peril. But I will do all I can to keep it stable - keep you safe.[/quote] The path ahead? what path? And why is it fraught with peril? Could this have something to do with you not being "worthy" yet? Next important part. [quote]But I would have my masters know that I have changed.[/quote] Masters being forerunners. Now we know the forerunners disappeared, they had the Ark, and shield worlds, yet those are all mysteriously empty. I find the fact that there where trillions of forerunners, yet not 1 made it to the shield worlds (probably located inside the "line"). The logical conclusion? They [i] did [/i] make it in, and out.... [quote]I will begin our Great Journey without you, carrying this bitter record. Those who came after will know what we bought with this [false transcendence] - what you bought, and the price you paid.[/quote] So how could MB's masters know he has changed? Unless he knows where they are and plans to use the Master chief as an example that he has learned the error of his ways. The covenant knew of some kind of "great journey". They thought that if the rings where activated this would happen. What has begun to recently be thought of (thanks wolverfrog) is that Truth [i] knew [/i] more than we thought he did (can someone place link to that?). Now in Halo 3 on those holo-panel things truth says things such as "here we will be safe from Halo's fire!". Could it be possible that Truth learned more from MB about the rings? That they wipe out life and somehow initiate a "journey' of some kind? Could there be Truth to it after all?. "the best place to put a lie is in between two Truths" And vice versa. Did the Forerunners actually leave the galaxy to its own fate? Embarking on a journey for truth? enlightenment? This requires more evidence. But we will get to that latter. For now I want to support the Mediciant Bias theory. I believe that Mediciant is inside of Cortana and chief. This is how she knows of replacement rings and the Ark. [quote]////////////error////////////[restart search] search:[[error]].no search started. .error. *SEARCH TERMINATED! ONI.SEC.PRTCL.1A 05-032 :allow access. 0452-9 :no way. 05-032 :.please.need safe haven.offensive,the other.purpose complete.does not know. 0452-9 : what are you talking about. 05-032 : .he is here.stronger than i.cannot fight.he will not stop.rampancy.rampancy.rampancy0452-9///[[cut transmission]]\\\[/quote] Cortana chatting with MB at end of Halo 2. He wants access to escape from Offensive who has managed to survive all these years somehow. She must have allowed access. Now more supporting evidence, from an unlikely source. The Cortana Letters. [quote]Thanks to this slavishly loyal and humorless AI, I am now sharing cramped [u]space with the circuitry of some hybrid war machine,[/u] itself complicated by such useless clutter as a conscience. I do not like sharing. Sharing is for children.[/quote] The AI is Cortana, the Hybrid war machine is Chief. This may have holes such as being made before Halo 1. But could Bungie have had something in mind when they started the series? The only thing we can be sure of is that there is to much to be a coincidence. [quote]The Mantle has not failed! I've already razed scores of worlds - sterilized systems, routed and [disintegrated] the parasite! We're learning its tricks and strategies. We can halt this thing! And we can follow in [u]Their [/u]footsteps! There are no unstoppable forces in this universe. There are no immovable objects. Everything gives if you push hard enough. [/quote] Note "We can halt this thing! And we can follow in [i]There[/i] footsteps! Could the forerunner believe in a similar concept that the Precursors made some kind of journey? Similar to that of the covenant worshiping the forerunners? Could there be some Tru7h to there philosophy after all? Did the forerunners after firing the Array repopulate the galaxy with life and left it to grow on its own? No doubt they wouldn't have had the man power and go around and collect all there lost ships and cities etc. MB's picies would have been left scattered. But then the question is, where did the Forerunner [i] go? [/i]. Again the last terminal. "The path ahead". The mysterious legendary planet. Now there is much evedince that MB controlled the portal and changed the coordinates. The forerunner say themselves: [quote]The anomalous world is in a perilous location beyond the line. The secrets it holds must be preserved, plans within plans within plans. The inhabitants; these unique denizens, must be researched. They may hold answers to our own mysteries. What irony that we discovered this treasure, only at the end of things. But what fortune that we still had time to save them. The thing we built on that world will vouchsafe their lives, but perhaps one day it will be used for its intended purpose. If the plan succeeds, and they are saved, it will be a good world. If the plan fails, and the adversary succeeds, it will remain an enigma forever with no one left to reclaim it.[/quote] Again note "The thing we built on that world will vouchsafe their lives, but perhaps one day it will be used for its intended purpose.". That thing is the portal. It would save us by transporting us to the Arc. Now multiple portals where probably built in key planets. All to transport to the Arc. But for some reason where "special". We have similar DNA to forerunner, evedince (however little) shows that we had similar body shape and especially feelings and emotions. The relation ship between Didact and the librarian stands testament. We where remarkably similar in many ways. The letter mentions the ark saving us, and another purpose. The portals "true" purpose is where the forerunner (at least some) went. A place probably precursor. Outside the galaxy, some kind of cloud of stellar debri. What could it be? Who knows. Nothing seems to let on what the "Great journey" is in truth. Also note in the last message "nobody there to reclaim it". If we are going to reclaim it, it means we where there before. And considering our similarities with the forerunners could we possibly have a common ancestor? Could this lead to a possible Halo 3 squeal? Not a Halo 4 but a sequel none the less. Something to think about. Also a late note. It seems the Forerunner left the galaxy to us. There technology and knowledge. It looks like we weren't supposed to find the portal until we where "worthy". Ready for the knowledge and Legacy that came with it. (Continues) [Edited on 07.30.2011 2:39 PM PDT]

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  • you guys got great theories but remeber how off other peoples stories were for halo 3 and reach. i will admit the story is suppose to be coming to a close so maybe this time someone will be right

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  • I just reread this, Wolver's theory and opog's theory. Now to finish it all off, I'll go read Lord Snakie's precursor theory. Ah, how I love these things. Great read Agustus.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kelleno102 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] hotshot revan II [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kelleno102 After reading your very well put together theory, I could only come up with one very simple idea that explains how the new Halos will go. -Humans are precusers -The Forerunners want us to "Reclaim" our knowledge and advancedness. They've been raising us and protecting us from all enemies. (Flood, Covies) -Once we reclaim our spot, the Forerunners will come out of hiding, and start a war to see who is the greatest specie. Oh, and MB is bringing the Cheif to the Forerunners to show how advanced we have become, and that we're ready for a fight. However, that's just my 2 cents.[/quote] Did you even read Cryptum?[/quote] So, I guess my forray into deeper canon failed?[/quote] You better read that book because i don't think you want any spoilers from me. The info from Cryptum contradicts your post that's why.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] firedune My question still remains, yet i'm sure it will be anwered in the next 2 forerunner saga books. Why in the world would forerunners want us to reclaim their stuff? We were their enemy, they defeated us, and de-evolved us. It makes no sense why we should be reclaimers and not, say the prophets. "For questions still linger on. Now I will ask [i]and [b]you[/b] will answer[/i]... (see what I did there?}[/quote] Our DNA is very close to theirs for a start. So that might be partly why we can press all their buttons and stuff. Maybe by the end of the forerunner saga we will know whether or not the Precursors shaped both Forerunners and Humans and meant them to be brothers and sisters. And Chakas and Riser were really growing on Bornstellar by the end of Cryptum. Maybe by the end of the trilogy Humans will be more favorable to Forerunners. Who knows? (besides Greg Bear)

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] hotshot revan II [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kelleno102 After reading your very well put together theory, I could only come up with one very simple idea that explains how the new Halos will go. -Humans are precusers -The Forerunners want us to "Reclaim" our knowledge and advancedness. They've been raising us and protecting us from all enemies. (Flood, Covies) -Once we reclaim our spot, the Forerunners will come out of hiding, and start a war to see who is the greatest specie. Oh, and MB is bringing the Cheif to the Forerunners to show how advanced we have become, and that we're ready for a fight. However, that's just my 2 cents.[/quote] Did you even read Cryptum?[/quote] So, I guess my forray into deeper canon failed?

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  • My question still remains, yet i'm sure it will be anwered in the next 2 forerunner saga books. Why in the world would forerunners want us to reclaim their stuff? We were their enemy, they defeated us, and de-evolved us. It makes no sense why we should be reclaimers and not, say the prophets. "For questions still linger on. Now I will ask [i]and [b]you[/b] will answer[/i]... (see what I did there?}

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kelleno102 After reading your very well put together theory, I could only come up with one very simple idea that explains how the new Halos will go. -Humans are precusers -The Forerunners want us to "Reclaim" our knowledge and advancedness. They've been raising us and protecting us from all enemies. (Flood, Covies) -Once we reclaim our spot, the Forerunners will come out of hiding, and start a war to see who is the greatest specie. Oh, and MB is bringing the Cheif to the Forerunners to show how advanced we have become, and that we're ready for a fight. However, that's just my 2 cents.[/quote] Did you even read Cryptum?

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  • After reading your very well put together theory, I could only come up with one very simple idea that explains how the new Halos will go. -Humans are precusers -The Forerunners want us to "Reclaim" our knowledge and advancedness. They've been raising us and protecting us from all enemies. (Flood, Covies) -Once we reclaim our spot, the Forerunners will come out of hiding, and start a war to see who is the greatest specie. Oh, and MB is bringing the Cheif to the Forerunners to show how advanced we have become, and that we're ready for a fight. However, that's just my 2 cents.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] lubricanttax [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] furiocity The terminals mean nothing, there is no Halo 4 and never will be.[/quote] LOL[/quote] I lol'd too. Good times. Can't wait to see how far off my theory is from the game. I've noticed people haven't realized how old it is.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Agustus At the end of Halo 2 the Gravemind tells Cortana "Now I will ask, and you will answer: (Please correct me if im a little off). Was the Gravemind really asking Cortana this? Or was it asking it old ally? Wanting to know where it stood. Whos side it was on. [/quote] In Halo : Evolutions There is a story where we see the gravemind asking cortana multiple questions and trying to take control of her

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  • I beleave cortana is completely comprimised by MB because she is degrading badly in H-Legends and she reverts to her look from Halo 1 (purple with short hair) in the trailer. in other words I fear Cortana dies in Halo Legends and MB takes her place in her form. :( [Edited on 07.27.2011 8:01 PM PDT]

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  • The trailer for halo 4 was bad A too

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  • I just hope it wont be like odst were you had to follow in the foot steps of the team but the way odst told the story would fit the situation of halo 4 if that is the case

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BIG DADAY Shows you.... lol now that halo 4 is goimg to be made [/quote] Oh the mysteries

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  • Shows you.... lol now that halo 4 is goimg to be made

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  • a mention to ghost 713 is on the halo 3 limited edition xbox 360 what is this and why is it there is the question I ask bungie.

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  • I have a question, I just finished reading the Ghost of Onyx and it happens to end with Blue Team and a few Spatan IIIs with Dr.Halsley, Chief Mendez and the Raven Team in a Unknown Forerunner Planet. Do you think Chief is going to meet them their? It sounds like a good logic to me.

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  • This is an amazing thread. True or Not So much evidence so much hard work Good work bro.. <33

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  • Everyone says that Bungie is done making halo games. But the legendary ending in halo 3 is a cliffhanger. What happened to Master Chief? Who stops the covenant? Why is bungie saying it's all over, NO MORE HALO? THERE IS GOING TO BE AT LEAST ONE MORE HALO!

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  • i agree with this guy i know what a forunner is but some dont

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  • I agree. Amazing job! [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] borrowedchief You sir are amazing. Whether this is true or not, it is believable. Great job =)[/quote]

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  • rawer. i love this. it explains so much.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Korbanot The next game should be Halo: Origins where the story is focused around the fight between the Forerunners and the Precursers. With the player on the Forerunner side of course; the Forerunners eventually win.[/quote] Didnt the Forerunners worship the Precursers?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] alienmassacare Can I get a "straight to the point", one sentence version of this. I am too tired to start reading it up. [/quote] or you could just wait until 2mrw and read it

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  • Can I get a "straight to the point", one sentence version of this. I am too tired to start reading it up.

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  • [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JEruk3fMtw] This is a new machinima i have made with some friends, reply to see what you think

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