So we have proved once again that we always find the easiest way guys. 1. Weaken all four ogres but let them all go to middle 2. Once guy has relic go to top deathsinger platform across from oryx and stun him 3. Finish your ogres and drop into bombs. Because ogres didn't die earlier the knights and add sets don't even spawn until right as you're all 4 dropping in to detonate... Profit.. Easier than normal mode Not me who came up with it already forget the guy's name but it's on the forums now take a peak he has video Note: "not a cheese or not" argument thread stop making it one. Someone linked a vid in comments here it is http://youtu.be/g-O1ZId2KhU Shameless self promoting of my two raid designs https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/163211084/0/0