To be clear, I'm quite familiar with the insane fortune of some and the utter inability for others to get decent gear during raids. I happen to fall in the second group, with two runs up to Oryx netting only a couple 313 pieces and a handful of 310 gear. For the most part, I get it... The allure of playing week after week comes from a lack of drop quality, and I've played along for over a year now... But I'll tell you what; My group battled it out, put in a good 8-10 hours or so on Oryx on hard, lost guardians, found others on LFG (always a good laugh when the dudes come into party and call us f****ts because we are 310-312), and FINALLY took that giant monster down. The feeling of satisfaction lasted about five seconds, until I moved over to the chest to uncover a 313 ghost that I'd already gotten that raid run. It complimented a sisters completion that gave me nothing in the chest. Bungie, you waste our time grinding out IB for 280-290 garbage gear that would be deemed irrelevant in exactly three days. You sit back and snicker while we carry less than knowledgeable guardians through the raid only to watch them get better gear in one run than we have gotten in over a month worth of completions... And now this... a final hard mode boss without a guarantee of ANYTHING. it's just sad. I love this raid almost as much as I do VoG. I love it almost as much as I hated the Crota raid... But I just don't know how many more hours of ridiculous grinding I can tolerate for zero rewards. It's a waste of my time. Thanks for the emblem though. My messages have never been so active while in tower. Too bad I'm not high enough level to join the groups inviting me.