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Edited by S1nYsT3Rx: 10/26/2015 4:58:26 PM
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The reality is - barely any content in TTK

This post is not a post of me bitching, more so a post to see if anybody else agrees or has noticed this. In year one we all complained about the lack of content (rightfully so). And they said they would add a lot of content for TTK, and they did, arguably. I think what they did was clever on their end. But it's getting it its point of aggravating people. They just decide to prolong all exotic quests, hold half the items back, and release some one at a time on one day intervals, making it seem that you constantly have something to look forward to the next day - possibly. Some examples: First Curse - okay at this point there have been people who have obtained this hand cannon after the two weeks of waiting (I'll have mine on Wednesday). The quest as a whole takes maybe 2 hours (ignoring the waiting). But no it's not 2 hours it's 2 weeks of waiting before you get it. It's not even hard to get, but they did it purposely so it's not done in 2 hours and people are required to play another week. Exotic Swords - while this quest as a whole was longer than first curse (those damn 25 kills in crucible, farming the 10 materials, and 100% ability kills), you're still waiting until Wednesday to continue your quest. Meaning yet again instead of completing in 1-2 days, you have to wait. Chaperone - I know a lot of you had trouble with the very first part, and back in week 1 when I did the strike part it wasn't fun, but this quest overall is pretty simple. But guess what? Let's wait a week to actually get it! Sleeper Simulant - This gun, this dream gun which I even thought of would burn through King's Fall like it was nothing, was nothing more than waiting a month for them to release a quest. No requirements, I say no requirements because i think I got all 4 rifles within the first week at most. Just waiting for this stupid quest, which was only out for one day and yet to appear since (sorry for all those who missed it). So those who missed have to wait. On top of this, those people who dedicated hours trying to decrypt things in game all to just go to waste must be pissed (yeah I guess it's their choice to dedicate that time, but I'd be pissed with nothing but a quest after all that lol - props to those people as well!) Black Spindle - BLACK HAMMER 2.0 OMG. Yeah this gun is very powerful and I love this, I luckily have had it since the first time it was out (credit to all of those on forums who share information). But most of my friends had to wait until this reappeared to obtain it. Not to mention Bungie screwed up the damage on the gun anyway lol. No Time To Explain - This gun is really cool and in the right situation is actually pretty powerful. The first time paradox released with the ghosts, I had learned by this time the 1 and done strategy bungie has implemented for this game, and went through to get the grimoire and ghost, knowing that it would lead to more, just would have to wait (also more credit to forum people to sharing!). Once the gun released, all those who didn't have it went through and now have to wait again lol. King's Fall - we've all done out exploration of the emblems and ship from kings fall. Some of us have already finished King's Fall Hard to receive the red emblem. This means there are 3 unobtainable emblems and the ship still. It seems based on the last month and a half, they just aren't out yet lol. We probably will have to wait (a question I do have is that are hard and heroic considered the same or different? Idk if not there's our ship answer). Also as a note to "Oryx's "Basketball Court" can we really believe this? I sure don't think they added that for absolutely no reason at all. Probably just pertains to content not available yet, more waiting. Exotics - how many exotics aren't out yet? There are more than a few that aren't available, particularly the boots that is precious warlocks still have yet to have the pleasure of obtaining since day 1. Armory has them linked at 330 defense, so who knows? All I know is we will have to wait until they decide it's time to release them. In summary, I must have wrote "wait" in each example. That's what i feel Bungie's strategy was for this - waiting. They extended the content over several months so players (like me) will continue to play to get everything. I think it's clear if they actually released everything from the start, half the community probably would be done for now. Again, I'm not bitching, nor do I have a right to considering I'm still gonna play this game every week, at least until I obtain everything. I just think this strategy is foolish and if that's how they have to maintain the community, there will be a game that takes us away from it (I'm sure fallout and halo will start that movement). Last off, im sorry on Bungie's behalf to all those players who, for some reason or another, missed content due to this one day method, and have yet to see it reappear. I hope you get your guns/armor soon enough and enjoy them with all this waiting. PS please everyone this isn't a forum post to start fights I just want to see if people have noticed this, agree or disagree. I'll respond to all mature posts but if you're gonna be an asshole please don't bother. I love this game and I think it's a great idea. It's just clearly not fully developed and I hope posts like this are read by Bungie so they understand their mistakes (they did well from Dark Below to Taken King, so high hopes there). Take care everyone! Edit: I forgot to put two things in. 1) The Old Hunger Quest - this had the emblem of an exotic weapon, and my personal belief is that there is another weapon still not released. Many people classify this as the touch of malice quest, but I think that was Hunger Pangs. The reason I think this is why would you unlock and emblem that required Hunger Pangs, but you didn't unlock the Beltane shader that requires you to complete The Old Hunger. Just some speculation I have made. 2) the last three calcified fragments - these may or may not be linked to the old hunger quest I just mentioned above, or they are just 30-45 grimoire that we just don't have. Either way they could play a roll in the continuation of game. Edit 2: I really appreciate all the opinions of those who agree and disagree. It seems many people who agree with me also agree that it seems destiny is getting better and going in the right direction! Edit 3: MongrelShadow14 basically summed it up - sure there is more content but by timegating they are making TTK seem twice as large as it really is. Thanks man good way to put it.
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  • Edited by lynk: 10/26/2015 8:18:30 PM
    I feel like I should point some things out, to try and change your opinion. TDB: 3 Missions: The Fist of Crota, The Wakening, and Siege of the Warmind. 4 Exotic Guns: Dragon's Breath, No Land Beyond,4th Horseman, and Necro 1 Raid: A short, simple, 4 step raid, and the world record completion of it is less than 5 minutes. The solo world record completion of it is less than 8 minutes. Strikes: 2 New Strikes (This was literally everything new in TDB) Let's compare to TTK, and since TTK was double the price, let's double the expectations: Missions: I have never bothered to count the amount of story missions in TTK, but there is alot more than 6 Exotic Weapons: Fabian Strategy, Tlaoc, Ace of Spades, Touch of Malice, Boolean Gemini, First Curse, Supercell, and Spindle makes 8. Let's see how many more I can name.... Sleeper, Raze Lighter, Dark Drinker, Bolt Caster, Hereafter, Telesto, and Chaperone. Also all the old guns they made Year 2. I'm sure I'm missing some. Raid: A long, complex, demanding raid that cannot be soloed. Last I checked, world record for this Raid was about 34 minutes. Strikes: Fallen Saber, Shield Bros, Sunless Cell, and Echo Chambe4. That's 4. Now let's compare HoW: Missions: Never counted HoW missions, but they were a lot more than TDB. I feel that TTK had about the same amount main story wise as HoW, but TTK has several side missions separate from the main stroy. Exotic Weapons: Dregs Promise, QBB, and Lord of Wolves. 3 exotics. Raid: There was no raid, unless you count PoE, which was mediocre at best. You stand in a room, killing enemies, and dismantling mines, then kill a boss with almost no mechanics at the end. Good for you. Strikes: One strike, the Shadow Thief. TTK: refer to above comparison. Lastly, let us compare main game, which was $60, to TTK, which was 40. Therfore main game should have more in TTK, not only because of price difference, but also because it is the base game. Main game: Missions: An impressive amount of story missions, more so then TTK I think, but not an amount of story. TTK fixed that and made the missions enjoyable to play more than once. Exotic Weapons: Both roughly the same amount of new weapons, but if you include the year 2 versions of base games guns, TTK pulls ahead. Raid: VoG was amazing. There is no doubt about it. My personal opinion, not fact, is that Kings Fall is a little better. However, since this is an ongoing debate, let's stick with both are equally good. Strikes: Lots of strikes here. We have Devils Lair, Summoning Pits, Archon Priest, Nexus Mind, and Valus. 5 strikes in comparison to TTK's 3. Remember tho, we are talking base game, which would naturally have more strikes than a less expensive DLC. TTK: refer to above information. Finally, let's look at what is completely new in TTK. We have a fully explore able destination, the Dreadnought. B4 ppl say " In HoW, we had the reef. That was a new area", that is not a fully explorable destination. That is a social place they put in cuz they ran out of room in the tower. They finished implementing sidearms. Yes, I know, sidearms were a thing in HoW. Bungie didn't take them seriously back then, and Therfore the was only 2 and they were bugged. Now we have a whole arsenal, none of which are bugged. We have a new ghost voice. Entirely new IB and Trials Gear. Vanguard streaks. Quests. Kiosks for everything. Emotes. Calcified Fragments. Swords. New Light System. New Subclasses. The list goes on. However, I haven't had my coffee yet, so I cant think of anymore. So, to conclude: TTK has everything TDB did, but more of it. TTK has everything HoW did, but more of it. TTK has roughly the same as the base game, but is a DLC that costs $20 less. TTK includes tons of new stuff completely different from anything in Year 1. If anybody has something they think I should add, comment below. If anyone disagrees with something stated, comment below, and plz be civil. Maybe you can change my mind, or I can change yours. #TitanMasterRace

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    • There were a crap load of quests, a more than decent story, and a hell of a good raid. Yes destiny still has its flaws, but I applaud the effort and am very satisfied with TTK

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    • People who say it's worth the money simply because they spend 100 of hours on it are missing a point. Subtract out all the time you're actually having fun playing, and look at how much you have played because you have felt like you NEEDED to (grinding, replaying, etc). Read about the slot machine effect. Educate. I'm not saying people are wrong if they don't feel robbed, but saying people are wrong because they DO feel robbed is equally incorrect.

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      • Its kinda true. . . But at least they gave us an illusion of content. Thats an improvement

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        I don't know. I don't have time to play all three classes anymore like pre TTK. There is way more stuff now.

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      • I can't really agree because I haven't had time to play like I did in the summer. If TTK would have came out then it would be a different story. I'm 301 and I play destiny maybe twice a week if that

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      • Yeah idk I figured this out week one of TTK when all exotics weren't accounted for in game...

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      • Theres anything to do on destiny. Its a disappointment for me. Hello halo 5

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      • You should discuss how Court of Oryx became useless the third week

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      • All these flavors Yet you chose salty

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        • Seeing posts like this make me happy lol

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        • Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Happy Thanksgiving guys! Here's the timelocked Fate of all Fools. But you have to wait until Xmas! Wait. Wait Wait....

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        • I got my $40 worth running each quest, strike, and King's Fall exactly once. Everything above that is additional value and serves as incentive to log on a few times per week. I suppose in the context of expecting 20+ hours per week or content it does seem thin, but those of us with reasonable expectations don't feel that way.

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        • Im not reading that lol

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        • The sad thing is, you truly thought this out, wrote a monologue....and you're still wrong.

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          • lol one month later you make this post? In TDB you were maxed out in two weeks. Stop whining. Play or don't. It's your decision. Stop trying to force your "opinion" into others. Let them decide for themselves.

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            • There is alot more shit to do then there was with dark below and house of wolves, always quests to do and they add quests and will be adding more stuff to do, it's only the first couple months.

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              • i totally agree with you. i think the 3oc is what really messed up the game tho. the first week when you could farm any boss rapidly and get exotics made exotics not really rare. most people have all or most of the exotics by now which is kinda sad because it's the first month. at least in year one it took months to obtain every exotic. i also agree with the " wait a week" "wait till we randomly add the quest" method of prolonging content.

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              • Edited by S P E C T E R: 10/27/2015 3:28:23 PM
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                • You don't know shit. There's lots of content, you just don't know how to play video games. Stop binging the -blam!- out of destiny. You're not part of the group of main consumers to focus on. Go play something else if you don't like it. I've been playing from alpha and kids like you only do This for attention. I'm sorry that you grew up a special little snowflake kid, but you need to calm down. This game is the most fun I have ever had in a first person shooter game. If destiny is such a shit game then why are you still pouring your money into it? Why do you still own it? Stop walking around still being butt hurt about the hype that occurred before the game came out. If Bungie isn't giving you what you want then go somewhere else. We use this forum to talk about destiny, stop posting these stupid toxic posts! Just go somewhere and have fun.

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                  • There releasing something new every reset . Whether it be a weapon or game mode.

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                  • It certainly lost its sex-appeal after about a month. I did like the fact that bungie decided to open certain areas in patrol that could only be accessed during missions back in Y1, like the bridge on Mars, or the boss room in the shrine of oryx. If only they could make the raids or certain strike locations open on patrol, add enemies and loot, that would satisfy my exploration itch.

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                  • I'm torn on this expansion, for the most part I really like it, but the time gated stuff is frustrating. My biggest problem is the quests that appear one day only. It's a cool idea but it means people like me who just cannot jump on to play on any given day have to miss out, it's a whole new level of RNG. I just have to hope that RNGesus allows these quests to pop up on the days that I can play. I haven't attained black spindle or no time to explain simply because I was unable to log on those days they've been available. I have been extremely happy with most other aspects of the game so I can't complain too much. Guess I'll just keep waiting.

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                  • Spot on, barley any loot to be found, secrets aren't really secrets because it's just time gated crap that leads to a few exotics. Story? What -blam!-ing story... Yes the cut scenes were ok... Not amazing but ok... All the cayde-6 talk is cool but that's about it... The story is just as bad as vanilla destiny... They clearly have no damn clue which direction they are going with this game... What's to find in the huge dreadnought ? Nothing ... Some fragments... You find a chest ooo look some shit blue and a useless material. For being such a big ship we sure as hell don't get to see much of it Strikes are dull as hell, the AI blows it's the same repetitive shit over and over. Only to get boring loot that you dismantle because 90 % of the time it's garbage... Nightfall is a joke still

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                    • Totally agree, will be moving on to new gen and Halo 5 when i can afford it soon

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                    • Congratulations! Your post has more content than TTK.

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