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Edited by Ectso:
10/25/2015 2:33:52 AM
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Dear Bungie, Sincerely, A Warlock.
I've been playing strictly warlocks since the Alpha. They're all I know, all I care to love. I know my Warlock inside and out.I love my warlock like a mother loves an ugly child. Even when the popular kids are out having friends, I still spend all my time with my ugly little Warlock.
My complaint today is that Bungie is the Father to my mother to my ugly little Warlock. Bungie is that drunken asshole of a father who ignores the runt in favor of the the other two. He gives them cool shit and praises them constantly, making sure they have a role to play and pushes them to the frontlines of that role. It's only when he's not buried in a mountain of booze bottles that he remembers "Oh yeah... I have a third child... I should probably put just enough effort into him to make sure cps doesn't get called."
Raid-wise, titans have bubbles. this is an essential and crucial TEAM BENEFIT that helps the whole team. Hunters can turn team mates invisible and apply some serious dps buffs with their supers. TEAM BENEFITS. These classes are raid essentials and everything they do helps the raid along.
Then we have Warlocks. Never have I heard "Bring your Warlock, we need him to get past this one part". It's just "What class are you?" I'm a warlock. "Oh... okay." as if to say, whatever, at least you can make the pew pew.
Our single redeeming factor that is EVER mentioned is that "Even when we suck, we suck less because we come back to life to suck again." We have a gimp super that rarely comes into play and shouldn't even be something considered for raid effectiveness. Having resurrection as a super power in the raid is no different than having the super power to grow your hair at will when your teammates are flying around and lifting things 60 times their body weight.
PAY ATTENTION TO US GOD DAMMIT.I WANT TO FEEL SPECIAL TOO.
Give us raids that literally force the entire team to die, depending on that resurrection. Give us raids that cluster so many arc shielded enemies into one god damn bunch that Stormcaller becomes a sought after mechanic.DESIGN AFTER OUR CLASSES ABILITIES AND ELEMENTS. The only raid mechanics you have ever used thus far are "Shoot these things and then follow up by shooting THOSE things and jump on shit for 10 minutes. Every mechanic is about dumping physical ammo into physical shit. Make classes and elements matter, like they should. Make a raid be more than an hour long michael bay film, full on action, bullets, and explosions, but lacking any form of substance.
It doesnt feel like you guys put much effort into the creation of these things... I mean shit, not to say all hunters have problems with the Hive Airport Terminal in the Taken King raid but its so bad that you guys had to allow everyone to buy an item that would make it easier for them to get through it because you didnt put much effort into the process of making sure shit works for certain classes.
I mean, where's the shit like "Oh hey, maybe like, we, guys listen, maybe there's like this, this machine. this machine guys. And like, warlocks have to shock it. they have to shock it to turn it on, and then like... and then like hunters, they have to like golden gun a gas valve to make it work right? and then, and then like maybe, just maybe. guys... just maybe a titan has to like... has to like slam a pad on the floor to activate the machine. To like make it, make it hurt the boss, or some shit. guys. Come on guys.
-blam!-ing use our abilities for fun, creative, imaginative shit. don't just turn us into walking ammo shitting factories, littering the galaxy with empty cartridges and corpses while jumping from one precarious ledge to the next. Yes, that's important, but there's more to life than pew pew and parkour, (pewkour). If I went to college to be a god damn graphic designer, I WANT TO BE A GRAPHIC DESIGNER. the same is for the class I'm playing. Sure I can shit lightning, -blam!-ing hover around like a god, and summon miniature lightning storms but what does that matter when I have a hunk of metal in my hands that shoots smaller hunks of metal and makes super neato noises, am I right? PEWPEWPEWPEWPEW.
But to digress to my original point, I'm tired of being the backseat class. the one no one prefers because I bring nothing to the table other than a life vest for when the plane explodes over the atlantic and I'm the only survivor alive to help drag the corpses out of the wreckage on the off chance I manage to swim 400 miles to shore and survive the shark attacks along the way. "I told you guys. I told you so -blam!-ing hard."
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*gives all of the Warlock awards* Please continue to speak for us
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I have personally come up with a raid the makes it to where all three classes are sought after. The parts are a raid boss with migrating critical spots that only the keen eyes of a hunter can see. A maze that moves and separates the team via teleport or fall traps and only warlocks can decipher the runes that read out "right" or "left". And a part where the team must defend a titan while he moves a few pillars into the correct spots dictated by audio feedback. Another thing would be warlocks could tell what type of shield certain minibosses change to midfight. Another encounter has titans lugging around certain crates of ammo for the team because that boss and his adds drop no ammo. There also would be a fight where hazards pop up on the ground (think fire) but there are steel beams only a Hunter is nimble and light enough to cross to the other side and deactivate the hazards. This is a cabal themed raid that follows lore, has multiple exotics weapons, class specific exotics and has up to 4 different types of raid gear for each class. What is funny is despite me not heavily playing destiny this little project is still going on. Its up to 12 pages of ideas, items, detail and dialogue.
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1 ReplyI so disagree with you. My main problem with warlock is that most people will run fireborn which is too situational. I don't care to wipe if we all die. It means we failed this time, collectively, not just because a warlock didn't have fireborn. And they barely produce orbs because well... if you run fireborn, you have to keep it... Most don't evean activate it if the ground is full of orbs for them to pick and have it back up straight away. Sunsinger: - song of flame: I'd like to see that one used more. It helps reduce cooldowns of all nearby allies INCLUDING SUPERS... isn't that helping your team? Stormcaller: - Electrostatic minds: in raids/ nightfalls, you are often close to your allies. This gives you a chance to get your super up really fast and generate orbs for your fellow teammates... isn't that helping your team? Voidwalker: - Vortex mastery, vortex grenade, vortex nova bomb, soul rip + either obsidian mind and claws of Ahamkara: Crowd control all day, and hips of orbs/super use... It feels to me all 3 subclasses can give your team a great boost, always.
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2 RepliesI main a warlock, but I'm pretty useful in raids. The stormcaller creates orbs to keep everyone else's supers up. That in and of itself can be invaluable. If you've mained a warlock since alpha, you should know the other two subclasses have perks that help the team as well. Are we as well liked? No. Are we just as useful? Yes. Anyone that won't allow a warlock in a fireteam is an idiot and probably looking for a carry.
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13 RepliesHere is an idea: Give warlock an exotic sunsinger armor piece, that allows you to use your super to revive another teammate from a distance. Kinda like Maya did in Borderlands 2 Also, have a nice day :)
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Edited by Sjur Eido: 11/6/2015 8:50:20 PMCheesy.
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Edited by McLovinxx1: 11/6/2015 8:30:46 PMWarlocks should get an exotic chest piece that allows them to give up their self-rez. To do an insta-rez on a fallen teammate. I'm pretty sure this will be useful in hardmode and trials
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2 RepliesYou know bungie can't make raids dependent on class for two reasons 1)lfg would be even more elitist 2)12 year olds with three hunters and friends with three hunters in their hunter only clan would call for the other classes to be removed because they aren't hunters.
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Edited by rosstritch5: 11/6/2015 8:12:11 PMWelcome to how hunters felt during vault of glass
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I'm a Hunter main but I think there are really important areas that a stormcaller thrives in. Golgoroth taken ad control, on hard, the ads in the deathsinger fight can become troublesome without stormcallers. I only dislike the abuse of fireborn, it was great for nightfall when nightfall kicked us to orbit but now it's only purpose is to just find ways to break the game seems like. I would like to see sunsingers not use fireborn and other perks like faster cooldowns for teammates.
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I would absolutely love double nova bombs, bonus damage in radiance, and better synergy within vanilla subclasses. Mostly just want that last thing though, lol
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4 RepliesBut we need your orbs, we need you to shock adds to death during golgoroth and bomb runs! You make things quick and painless! I mean, yeah your jump sucks but at least fall damage isn't a thing you need to worry about?
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4 RepliesFinally, a Warlock admits what smug, useless assholes they are. Cheers.
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1 Replywell you obviously weren't here during last year, warlocks were MVP in vog. I think hunters were useless at that raid. Just let it go
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2 RepliesScrew team abilities. Warlock is all about the power. Give me a bigger nuke
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Warlocks aren't pointless. Stock listening to the drama. Warlocks are great with trash mob control making orbs and supers for the entire team. War priest, Golgi, and oryx all will benefit from the orbs for people running bubbles and shadow shot which doesn't do shit at oryx fight. Defender Titan is way more of a support class then night stalker. Night stalker has a support super with mostly utilities for abilities that benefit only the Hunter class. It's a little hyped up imo right now. All classes are good and it depends more on the person playing then the class.
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You have beast crucible classes and can solo more than anyone else(assuming you are as good as everyone else.) Warlocks are fine. Rez can clutch on atheon as well as oryx(if you use it right and not just die all the time.) You don't need a tether to kill oryx's echo, we never used a bubble in my first hard oryx kill. You don't even need tether on golgoroth. Bungie does not make raids that require classes. It just happens that some people suck so much they can't deal damage without them. That is there fault, not your's or bungie's.
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Warlocks poop orbs like pros. Everyone wanted them for the crystal room at Crota on HM. Warlocks were also instrumental in cheesing Templar, Atheon, and even the Bridge encounter (at least until more people got gud at hopping up onto the tower). Maybe that's why it feels like they've held back a little now, too many times those Warlock powers have been used for evil...
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dude the hunter and warlcoks got the best crap in year one and hunters still do in year two
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I can some what agree with you. A lot of times it seams that the warlock get screwed over with the new exotics and are place with in raids but were not that bad. Sure on some bosses were not the best but we still manege to kick some ass. We have are ups and downs when it comes to some of are exotics and are places in the raids but we're still use full. Like the other day I was doing kings fall hard and i was at golgeroth it was me and the gazz runer the rest of the team died but I had snsinger on and i was able to bet him by my self. The last thing tho is are place in kings fall hard is voidwalker for the warpreist, sunsiger or stormcaller for golgeroth, what ever you fill like for the witches pretty much no class has to use there super for them and sunsinder for ortx. Be sides its not so bad we got trench coats.
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I can some what agree with you. A lot of times it seams that the warlock get screwed over with the new exotics and are place with in raids but were not that bad. Sure on some bosses were not the best but we still manege to kick some ass. We have are ups and downs when it comes to some of are exotics and are places in the raids but we're still use full. Like the other day I was doing kings fall hard and i was at golgeroth it was me and the gazz runer the rest of the team died but I had snsinger on and i was able to bet him by my self. The last thing tho is are place in kings fall hard is voidwalker for the warpreist, sunsiger or stormcaller for golgeroth, what ever you fill like for the witches pretty much no class has to use there super for them and sunsinder for ortx. Be sides its not so bad we got trench coats.
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I can some what agree with you. A lot of times it seams that the warlock get screwed over with the new exotics and are place with in raids but were not that bad. Sure on some bosses were not the best but we still manege to kick some ass. We have are ups and downs when it comes to some of are exotics and are places in the raids but we're still use full. Like the other day I was doing kings fall hard and i was at golgeroth it was me and the gazz runer the rest of the team died but I had snsinger on and i was able to bet him by my self. The last thing tho is are place in kings fall hard is voidwalker for the warpreist, sunsiger or stormcaller for golgeroth, what ever you fill like for the witches pretty much no class has to use there super for them and sunsinder for ortx. Be sides its not so bad we got trench coats.
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As a warlock, I understand how you feel. Especially considering the new piss - poor exotics we got with TTK. However, I would not say that we are useless. We are just less...flashy. Less obviously important. For example: King's Fall. I kill adds. I eliminate the enemy before they can harm my fireteam. I get orbs generated to get my friend's supers up quickly. It is a thankless job. But I'm ok with that. It's the simple Warlock that helps push the raid along. Is he vital? Probably not. Is he useful? Most people don't even know. But without my job, I know that there would be more team wipes, less damage dealt. I know I am not useless and can make a difference. And that, my fellow Warlocks, is what we must remember.
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I main a warlock and I can honestly say that I disagree with pretty much everything you said. The warlock is fine as it is. Unique in its own ways and useful in others. If anything the warlock is the most in the middle of the 3 classes, a "Jack of all trades" type of thing.
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4 RepliesWarlocks were special for crota and when has a blade dancer feel special in a raid except for the abyss? I say bungie favors warlocks if anything. I say make a raid for anything but warlocks
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4 RepliesMy Warlock can clear the whole Path from the Relic straight to the Statue where my Buddy can dunk it in. With only 1 Super usage. My Warlock is doing a geat Job on any jumping challenge in Destiny. My Warlock save all my mates on one side from upcoming Bad guys on the Totem Part . Just by floating the Way up to the middle as a Storm Caller. My Warlock save all my mates by clearing the Taken after a DPS phase on Warpriest. , so everybody can return save to their plates. My Warlock control all those Taken and Hive in Golgoroths cellar. While my Buddys can safely shoot him. My Warlock doing great at the Jumping Part up to the Relic from the Daughters. My Warlock contols all the Adds Spawning when start the Daughters fight. My Warlock clear all Those adds after a DPS phase on a Daughter while everybody hurrys to get to their Plates. My Warlock doing a great Job Showing the Position of the Shade of oryx in the dark Bubble, while firing Bolts out of his hands. My Warlock saved my Mates from Adds through the whole Raid...... . . . . . . he Was a Teamplayer all the Time. Adjust your Playstyle to what is optimal in those fights. Only then you could get a TEAM BENEFIT. Same for every other Race or Subclass..... adjust every Role. and Everyone will do well
