Datto nailed it all. I only disagree with a Hawkmoon range nerf. It's a long distance firearm.
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Mighty Bump of Havoc!
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Yup. I wholeheartedly agree. After a while "not fun" ceases to be a draw.
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Bump. And if hawkmoon gets nerfed I think it should be a slight RoF nerf to reduce TTK without changing the point of the weapon. It already has very low aim assist so it's fair that it's rangey IMO.
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Bump its time we speak out!
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Lol. I stopped listening when he said you can't have fun or do well unless you're using thorn, tlw, felwinters.
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The only things i disagree with are the hawkmoon and grenade & horseshoes nerfs but other than that great video.
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I just watched this and was thinking about posting this exact thing.
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Bump bump bump
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Edited by CookieNiki: 7/2/2015 8:48:01 PMI remember the time when everybody used auto rifles because they were the most powerful guns at time. Then they were nerfed and now that they are useless we see all kind of posts and people asking Bungie to buff them. Truth is, every game has top guns and if you nerf those top guns others will take their place. It's a never ending circle of buffing and nerfing. That's exactly what's happening in Destiny and if we keep going down that road, soon all great weapons we know and like will be just garbage pea shooters. Anyway... I just hope Bungie don't f*ck it all again to PvE players like it did when nerfing the auto rifles. [b]If it's a PvP issue then nerf the weapons ONLY in PvP modes.[/b]
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He left out grenades those ABSOLUTELY need to be addressed also but nailed it otherwise
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Agreed, bump!
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Dat moment when i made a similar post but it wasnt seen or bunped as much :(
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Edited by SKTCHWLKR: 7/2/2015 9:01:44 PMI will bump this forever. Seriously, i will bump until we get answers.
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Hawkmoon Should've been a scoped hand canon. Would have been great
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I understand the complaints about this but look at all mp games. Most have that one op gun that EVERYONE uses and then they nerf it, that leads to another gun being the op gun. What you guys want isn't possible. There will never be a balanced shooting game. And if you get your hand cannon nerf , the exact moment you all get what you want. You are going to cry to nerf RED DEATH, how the health res on it is op. Although I have one question.... Honestly think about this. Did you ever cry nerf when ars when bad a** in the game? Cause I'm sure you were cussing out suros users. But look at everyone now. They complain ars got a nerf.
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I love how people used to call Datto a cry-baby, when everyone else wants what he wants, to make this game's multiplayer actually FUN.
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Since it has been this way for months, it's not exactly news.............
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Bump all day long. I love PvP but this Iron Banner has basically been a highlights show of every problem Datto mentions. There's a reason all of the top players are saying pretty much the exact same thing. Just look at the Skirmish rules being used by them for 'sweaties'. The point I agree with most is the complete lack of communication from Bungie on the entire PvP front. Even if they said they've no intention of changing anything until TTK I'd appreciate it.
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S/o to bungie