[i][b]'mimicus' I understand why you're upset. Really, I do. It does seem unfair. However, this is a serious problem in our modern society: rewarding mediocrity. Entitled behavior simply for being present. Participation awards, trophies for 4th place, pizza parties for attendance, abandoning scores so no one feels excluded, equal turns at-bat. If everyone is special, then no one is. We should strive and scrape to earn our rewards---not expect them just because we showed interest. If you want it, practice until you earn it. If you can't earn it, shift your focus elsewhere.[/b][/i] I personally don't play pvp and probably will never get to this endgame but that's fine ive got the raids and now the prison. Maybe someday i will have a crack at pvp and try for this. I do think its deserved for those that are good at the game to be rewarded for it. The above quote from a fellow guardian whom i have never met is spot on Kudos bud.