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3/27/2015 12:38:24 PM
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Why no one has a full vault.

Because the space is needed when moving weapons every single time you chnage character. And Bungie have used the space everyone leaves as an excuse for them not to add much more.
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  • Edited by luckyguess: 3/27/2015 2:28:05 PM
    The problem is that instead of the developers coming here to the forums and engaging the community in a proper conversation about the issues like equal human beings, they use the one-way mirror approach where they watch us in secret without actually interacting (god forbid they mingle with the peasants... ewww), then they extrapolate the basic context of the complaint and talk amongst themselves about what they [i]think[/i] we are trying to express. Then, they have the gall to come back with a weekly update and try to [b]tell us[/b] what we're really complaining about. It comes off as so arrogant and condescending.

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    • True. I don't have a full vault because i created new characters that help hold gear. The only reason i don't is because i dismantle legendaries i would otherwise collect because im afraid of loosing vault space... It creates the whole 'i might need it later' mentality which kinda kills the point of this style of game whici is to collect the gear

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    • Lol your probably right

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    • The only reason why my vault isn't full anymore is because I know it's been restricted so I use a 3rd character's weapon slots full of extra stuff.

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    • I keep my vault full so I don't have to do an extra transfer when I log on. I usually have something to do at the tower before I log off anyway, so I just deposit my weapons and they're ready for whichever character I decide to play next.

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    • My vault is full of legendary engrams so I can rank up the cryptarch when HoW drops

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      • Yup. I will be content with 36 slots. That gives me 27 max to rotate in/out when swapping characters and an extra 9 to hold random guns i might find useful.. Shoot to loot gun, rare void fusion/shotty for future thorn bounties other legendaries that i never use but won't scrap(like shadow price!) OOOOOOOR, they could just make it drag n drop from character to character and the vault could be used as intended: a storage place. It's just an extra link in the chain for swapping. I don't have enough time/luck to have multiples of any gun. I find it useless now that the app works. The character swap screen will probably finally get introduced this fall.

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      • I personally believe that the companion app negates the need for duplicates, which seem to take up a lot of space for people. I've actually dismantled two Bad Jujus, one Ice Breaker, one Mida and one Patience and Time because it's pointless for me to have them on all my characters when I can just move them around on the fly

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      • Agreed

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      • Edited by CheeseSando: 3/27/2015 3:42:24 PM
        If you have 3 characters you total up to 117 Weapon storage slots. This isn't including even what you have actively equipped. (That totals at 126) The new damage rate is probably going to be around 350 to 360. This really makes Vault of glass weapons as useful as level 20 rare weapons. How many of those do you use? With 4 kinds of primaries Just averaging 3 exotics per weapon, add 1 raid item and 3 other of the class we get, 28 weapons. Special weapons there are 3 classes, by the same math we get 21 Heavy by the same count is 14. 63 weapons right there Add the old raid weapons. 72 weapons. Now let's just say you have all 3 characters doing seperate pocket infinity bounties 27 more slots taken. 99. We haven't even crossed into the section of the expanded vault. Oh let's just say you kept the strangers rifle and Khostov. There so even with All exotics 2 raids worth of weapons 3 non exotics of each kind of weapon 3 separate pocket infinity bounties The strangers rifle And the damn Khostov You still have 16 slots left. So I call it plenty of space. Plus you have the app to move things so you don't need duplicate weapons. Break down that 117 in a different way. You could have 13 per class 52 primaries 39 special weapons 26 heavy weapons. I still say that is plenty. You honestly can't say "oh I use all 117 guns constantly AND I just can't fit anymore.

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        • If old gen consoles can't handle it give more to the next gen consoles

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        • Actually their reason for not adding more was because old gen consoles can't handle it.

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          • I know right! Bungie's numbers analysts show a severe lack of common sense time and time again

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          • That's was my thought too but they also blame last gen consoles

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          • [quote]Because the space is needed when moving weapons every single time you chnage character.[/quote] True, but that's not why. It's because space is segregated into three categories, and people have ample space on their "gear box".

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          • You are trying to make a point as if they said it was a binary result. They didn't say most players don't have full vaults implying that they were counting people with one vault spot left. As a matter of fact they said for players level 30+, 21% had 4 or fewer vaults spaces left. Conversely that means 79% of players 30+ have 5 or more. At minimum you need one space to do vault transfer unless you are doing whole sets of gear, but that doesn't make any sense. The reason it doesn't make any sense is because the only reason you would have a full vault, and maxed inventory on all your characters is if you were already holding duplicates or hoarding every piece of shit gear you have ever acquired whether you intend to use it or not.

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            • ^ this

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            • Yea idk how they don't realize this. I can easily fill the vault even when we get the extra space.

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            • Edited by Ronin Tanuki: 3/27/2015 5:42:50 PM
              This is exactly what I though, too! It seems to me that Bungie may not be the best at interpreting the statistics they gather. It's like the auto rifle nerf all over again. "Too many people are using the auto rifle!" Hmm, I'm sure familiarity with the weapon type and certain headshot bounties had nothing to do with that. Or how about when they released the info on the most used weapons? Haha, it was pretty clear the stats were being influenced by the influx of new players (Christmas). Greens and blues at the top.

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            • Or before the app I would decide which character was not being used that day, sign on and grab the guns not needed. Then switch to the character's I would be using and exchange with the now freed up space

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            • I kinda wish they added more slots for the random items. I would love to collect every shader. But whatever what can you do. Im happy.

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            • No it's because old gen systems can't have too many items on the screen at one time.

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            • Armor wise its never, full weapon wise its like 4 guns from full

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            • Edited by THE SARGE 01: 3/27/2015 5:37:04 PM
              I personally don't need additional vault space, especially since by.gie added the ability to move equipment around with companion app. All my gear is with the characters, other than the one I use the least. Plus, other than exotics and raid legendaries, all else is replaceable immediately following HoW release.

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            • Yeah they wont be full due to switching between chars which is true. But almost doubling the size from 20-36 can hardly be seen as a bad thing

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